She did, on Monday.jmra wrote:I thought she got the gun back but not the ammo.WildBill wrote:I predict he won't be charged with anything and she won't get her gun back any time soon.OldCurlyWolf wrote:Keith,Keith B wrote:I say there are three sides to this story; hers, the officer's and the truth. She says she didn't, he says she did, and somewhere in between is the truth. As already stated, if she violated a law, arrest her for the charge and take her gun, but the officer confiscated her gun and didn't charge her with anything, which is totally against the law.EEllis wrote:So you don't think parking behind someone in such a way as to keep them from leaving is the equivalent to blocking them in? Or is it that you don't believe that is what she did? Sure I'm just going off a news story but I don't believe the people would of sat there and waited just because she asked. Reread the statute. "Restrain" means to restrict a person's movements without consent, so as to interfere substantially with the person's liberty, by moving the person from one place to another or by confining the person." Forcing someone to abandon their property to be able to have freedom of movement seems to fit in that definition. Mind you it would be severe overcharging in this case and I don't know that any court would convict but I see no reason it couldn't be charged. Mind you I don't know the case law but the definition seems more than close enough. There is also the fact that there are other charges that also could of been placed on her. Unlawful restraint was just one. Obstructing a highway or other passageway PC 42.03 would also fit and I have no doubt there are more. What allows her to seize and hold someone elses property? If you were walking out a store and the security purposely parked behind you to prevent you from leaving how would you be feeling? Because it's just your car so your free to go.Keith B wrote: That's not her story. She stated she pulled in behind them. Third party, the paper said the officer stated she blocked them in. And, Unlawful Restraint does not constitute movement in a vehicle. It is against the individual person. If she didn't physically restrain them or hold them at gunpoint, then IMO no crime was committed. No matter, she had to have been arrested or he legally should have given her gun back. End of story.
Technically, he actually committed Aggravated Robbery, under Color of Authority. Nice little 1st degree felony there. Personally, I believe he should at least be charged with a Class A theft charge(assuming we have an accurate story here), but then I have a real problem with officers that overstep their bounds.![]()
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- Wed May 28, 2014 5:24 pm
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- Wed May 28, 2014 11:15 am
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I read all the posts and am amazed... There are hypotheticals and points that she broke the law and what not, I think in an effort to try and justify the outcome. I'm sure some of the positions are to play devils advocate or stir the pot. Some will argue just to try defend a group of people, even if in their heart of hearts, know are wrong or argue just to be argumentative. Heck, I've argued points I knew were wrong, just because I did not want to back off my point and I have a couple teenagers that argue just to argue!
She was NOT arrested and therefore should NOT have had anything illegally confiscated from her. I don't care if she called the police every name in the book, was disrespectful to everyone and sat on the BGs and really did restrain them or broke a million other laws. She was not arrested. Now, if laws were broken, go back and arrest her and then you confiscate her firearm, I'm okay with that.
I have yet to see a law that gives an officer the ability to take property away from it's owner when an arrest has not been made or a search warrant issued.
Maybe I am taking too simplistic of a view....
Brian
She was NOT arrested and therefore should NOT have had anything illegally confiscated from her. I don't care if she called the police every name in the book, was disrespectful to everyone and sat on the BGs and really did restrain them or broke a million other laws. She was not arrested. Now, if laws were broken, go back and arrest her and then you confiscate her firearm, I'm okay with that.
I have yet to see a law that gives an officer the ability to take property away from it's owner when an arrest has not been made or a search warrant issued.
Maybe I am taking too simplistic of a view....
Brian
- Mon May 26, 2014 8:13 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
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I would like to think that there is more to the story than is being published. Wonder if this will be a test case or just settled out of court. Sure sounds like it's headed to the attorneys.