Must be generational differences...Jumping Frog wrote:So I see you missed my point.
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- Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:37 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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- Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:12 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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John Wayne was an actor and frankly not a very good one (my opinion) and while he set a standard for a generation it doesn't mean he'd act that way in an environment so chaotic such as mall shooting. I can go play Green Beret but it doesn't mean I have the skills of a Green Beret. This guy was scared yet he was still aware enough to know that he didn't have a shot if his story is true so in my opinion he was in the right because he judged the situation and took an action that after the fact he was able to determine was appropriate. Sure he might be more "feminine" than those from 1950 but keep in mind that in 1950 CHL was for mostly if not entirely LE only.Jumping Frog wrote:For everyone wanting to pile on barstoolguru, I suspect part of this is generational differences.
People who are born in the mid-fifties or earlier grew up with a completely different sense of what being a man meant when compared to the current generation of young men raised in an educational system and culture heavily slanted towards the femininization of men in America.
Leave aside the whole issue of whether he should have taken a shot or not. When I saw the video of him sitting there quivering, I couldn't help picture John Wayne saying to him, "Come on, Pilgrim, pull yourself together." That was my cultural conditioning.
Do not misunderstand me, my point is not that he should have been more stoic. My point is men raised in the 50's had a much different cultural conditioning than men raised in the last 20 years.
- Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:36 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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Uh yes Audie Murphy and Alvin York were trained as they were members of the military. They had combat training and made decisions in combat that were later proven to be above the call of duty. Comparing a civilian who probably sat through an 11 hour class with 1 hour of range time is not similarly trained in the least to members of the military so expecting this guy to do Medal of Honor worthy actions is ludicrous. If his story is true then just give him credit for not adding to the civilian casualty count. You weren't there and he was so it was his call to make.barstoolguru wrote:so was Audrey murphy or Alvin York trained for what they did. Warriors are forged on the battle field but heroes are found in the most unlikely places. He could have shot up in the celling, could have yelled, could have done something but he chose to go hideThey train LEOs for this type of situation
we seen teachers with no training (woman, god bless them) and men die to protect others so say what you want this guy needs to find a rock