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by benenglishtx
Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:41 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: California Trying to Out-Ban NY
Replies: 11
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Re: California Trying to Out-Ban NY

RoyGBiv wrote:Possession of hollow point bullets and similar assault bullets a felony.
I think a note from experience elsewhere on this particular bit is in order.

In the Czech Republic, they love their guns. They own and shoot them at a rate those of us on this forum would consider admirable. However, there are some leftover weird bits in the law from back in the bad old days of the Eastern Bloc.

One of those is that hollow points and soft points are illegal. Plain round-nose lead is the order of the day for revolvers. FMJ is all you get for your semi-auto pistols.

I am convinced (though I haven't been able to confirm it; I'll ask 'em about it at the NRA Annual Meeting coming up shortly) that Federal decided to go into production of expanding full metal jacket ammo for the Czech market. Yes, that also meant that the stuff was legal in New Jersey, too, but I get the impression that not much of it was sold in the U.S. A few years ago, the Czech suppliers bought it by the shipload.

Laws change, though. The Czechs have now made the expanding FMJ illegal. It's back to plain old hardball for them. Federal has re-branded the line as their "Guard Dog" ammo, e.g.: http://www.federalpremium.com/products/ ... spx?id=938" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The ammo works by putting a cavity between the jacket nose and the lead core of the bullet. The cavity is filled with some sort of plastic and the jacket is pre-stressed along longitudinal lines. Here's a cross-section rendering:

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Here's a picture of a recovered bullet. You're looking at the nose of the bullet. The nose just flattens and the jacket splits.

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I have no idea of the definition of "similar assault bullets" (Which of the speakers, at what time code, referred to "assault bullets"? I can't find it.) but if this passes, I imagine "Guard Dog" will become a household phrase among California gun owners.

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