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baldeagle wrote:

Stripes Dude wrote:Reading this eased my fears a bit.

I personally have no issue with strengthening background checks, eliminating private sales without a BG check (that may infuriate some here)

It doesn't infuriate me. It just makes me shake my head. Do you realize what you are saying? If I want to sell a firearm to my daughter, under that scenario, I would have to pay for a background check. Does that even make sense to you? Because it if does, I think you need to think about it a little more clearly. Would you mind if the government checked your background before you sold your house? Your car? Any other possession? NONE of those things are constitutionally protected. Guns are. Yet you would allow an intrusion that you would never think of allowing for mere possessions.

It's no wonder America is in trouble when we've departed so far from an understanding of the Constitution.

No need to be condescending. Sometimes, people have different opinions on how problems should be solved. If in your life, there are no differing opinions, then congratulations on being able to surround yourself with like minded people. But don't be rude, asking rhetorical questions. Besides, paying for a BG check to transfer a gun to your daughter is no different than paying to transfer a car title. So do you have issues with FFLs doing a background check, because you clearly do when it comes to private checks? I don't understand your logic.

Looks like I stirred the pot. What I am attempting to convey is that all sides need to come to the table with a solution, and my personal belief is that we won't fix the issue of firearms falling into the hands of criminals or the insane, but an attempt at doing so is what we should aim for. This is how politics work, compromise. The likelihood that things will remain as-is are slim to none. So time to think outside the box. It isn't about constitutionality, it's about being able to compromise with those who are creating legislation.

We can dig in our heels, not budge an inch, and lose a lot. Or we can compromise.

The topic of allowing CHL in 51% bars comes up a bit. And those connected to the TX legislature say it won't happen, and don't even ask for it because that would get a bill killed, and take with it all of the other things we are trying to pass. That's called compromise - lots of us want that, but won't take it forward in legislature because it has no chance of passing.

I don't want any of this. I wish it had never gotten to this point. But I'm being honest with myself and others - no one will end up in a good place by being bull headed.

Reading this eased my fears a bit.

I personally have no issue with strengthening background checks, eliminating private sales without a BG check (that may infuriate some here), or requiring more restrictions relating to mental health. I may go as far as to suggest that anyone who has firearms, and lives with or provides access to their home people with certain mental health issues, would have greater restrictions on how their guns are stored and who can access them. How this would be enforced is the issue.

If I can sign an affidavit to let DPS check my medical history for red flags when applying for a CHL, why can't this system be beefed up, on a national level? What's stopping a mental health check from working? I'm sure I have oversimplified it, and nailing down which mental health issues are red flags wouldn't be easy.

Sometimes the privacy laws restricting access to our medical history may restrict the liberties of other citizens. Like my 1st grade teacher who punished the whole class because no one would turn in the kid who stole the cookie - unless we create a system to identify who shouldn't have access to guns based on their mental state, we all may suffer.

If giving up some ground in the negotiation with Obama means tougher background checks and restrictions on who has access to firearms, means we can keep modern sporting rifles and magazines with >10 rounds, then this seems like a compromise that is reasonable.