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by srothstein
Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:28 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Charlotte police kill unarmed man who may have needed help
Replies: 35
Views: 7510

Re: Charlotte police kill unarmed man who may have needed he

BigBangSmallBucks wrote:So you tell me how many shots does it take to "stop a threat" I've seen countless videos of criminals on every drug know to man in shoot outs with police and unless they were in a vehicle and not ftf it didn't take 10 shots to stop them.
Each case is different and based on many factors including the drugs the person has taken and his mindset. I will point out that in the FBI Miami shootout in 1986, the one criminal took a non-survivable hit severing one of his arteries from the first shot fired. He managed to keep fighting through several other hits, including some from a 12 gauge shotgun (in the legs, admittedly). He managed to fire more than 200 rounds, killing two agents and wounding more.

There are also documented cases from a single small caliber shot killing a person who should not have died based on injuries. I heard of one case that I do not remember well where an officer took a single hit in the arm, lost less than a pint of blood, but was found dead. The medical thought went to shock while the police training thought went to "Bang Bang, I got you, you are dead" mindset.

Since the person shot in this case managed to actually make physical contact with the officer, I would say it took ten shots to stop him.
by srothstein
Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:24 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Charlotte police kill unarmed man who may have needed help
Replies: 35
Views: 7510

Re: Charlotte police kill unarmed man who may have needed he

I have been trying to read up on this and not finding enough to make my decision. I was shocked when the police charged the officer this quickly, and that indicated to me that something in the news reports is not right or complete.

Consider a slightly different point of view since the police knew nothing about an accident or injuries:

Police get call for burglary in progress from panicked female resident. Arrive on the scene and find a male suspect banging on the door. He charges at them and one uses a Taser to try to stop him. Taser does not work and he is still charging at an officer who pulls a gun and shoots him.

Now, from the accident victim's point of view:

He loses control of the car and hits a tree. Hurting, he crawls out of the car to try to get help. He goes to the nearest help and bangs on the door but gets no response. The police pull up and he thinks they are there to help him so he starts to run to them. One of them pulls a taser and tries to shoot him with it but misses. He is trying to yell for help but is not making much sense. He keeps heading towards the cops and one pulls his gun and shoots him. Chief decides to charge the officer for manslaughter.

Yep, we definitely do not have enough information on this one to make any kind of rational decision.

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