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by srothstein
Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:52 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?
Replies: 30
Views: 3725

Re: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?

Beiruty,

Just one quick piece of advice. If you ever do get into a shooting with multiple BGs, don't go for the closest ones first. Go for the greatest threat first. They are not necessarily the same.

For police training, we will usually have one scenario where there is a close person with a pistol, a medium range with a shotgun, and a farther range suspect with a rifle. The order we teach to shoot them is the shotgun, then the rifle, then the pistol. This is based on the odds of their being able to hit you and injure/kill you.

Without rewatching the video to check, I think there were times when the closest to the Cowboy was the least dangerous as his back was turned. The unarmed one would be the least threat. This additional fraction of a second in choosing targets can make a difference in life or death.

And unfortunately, this is one of the flaws with most of the IPSC type shooting contests. They almost always have you shooting based on distance or location, instead of threat. Of course, with silhouette targets, the threat level is hard to change.
by srothstein
Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:19 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?
Replies: 30
Views: 3725

Re: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?

Well, from what I see, his best chance of intervening is not drawing his weapon at all. When the one bad guy comes over and starts to frisk him is the perfect time to intervene. Physical force, grabbing the gun to disarm and control him, would be my option. This would work to get me time to do whatever I wanted, either then drawing and using him as cover (think hostage) or shooting him.

There are other options, but knowing how it is going down from the videos, this would be my choice. We all need to recognize that we need to be able to defend ourselves with other means than the gun, at least a few good moves until we can draw.

Probably the other best option is to take advantage of their ignoring him as he walks away to get his gun out, then bringing it up shooting as the one BG comes at him with the gun drawn. This is based on the action and reaction speeds, but he could get his shots off first, I think, especially if he got the weapon in his hand before they knew he was armed.

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