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gregthehand wrote:Ok they only sale to Law Enforcement. The only other option would be if I had a bonofide shooting range that conducted training. At that point I would have to contact Simunition and say pretty please and they *might* give me a letter saying I can purchase their (very expensive) equipment. My only other hope is the used market as it seems they don't have any control on that.

Well, if you get around to doing this, let me know. I have three simunition revolvers plus plenty of ammo for them in our warehouse. I am sure we can work something out with a couple officers getting training in the scenario.

I did not watch the show (mostly because I had no faith in it to begin with), but I have been thinking about the active shooter scenario.

Having just started work on my doctorate, I keep looking for things to do a thesis on, and looking at things like this from a thesis perspective. This would make a really good research project if done correctly.

The way to do it correctly would be to repeat the scenario several times. In equal number of times, vary who knows what is going on between the one student with the pistol, the bad guy, and the professor. The other students would know something was going to happen, because of the need for protective gear, but they would not necessarily know what. And they definitely would not know one or more of the students had a concealed weapon. It would take quite a bit of work to fully script out the scenarios, but it would be an interesting research project.

On a side note, this has been done before for training (not the research part). In a lot of police academy classes, there would be someone bust in and start shooting a pistol (usually blanks) and then run out. The class would be judged on their reactions and also then asked for descriptions of the suspect and reports on what happened. In my academy class, you could see who was an experienced cop because they were instinctively reaching for their own weapons (which weren't there) or taking cover. The others usually froze the first time it happened.

fickman wrote:If we successfully banned all of the guns from the face of the world. . . these mass murderers would probably not de-evolve into knife crimes or catapults.

. . . they're going to resort to bombs. This isn't an argument I'd use with the anti's, but c'mon. I'm not a prophet and I can see this.

Well, they may use bombs, and I see nothing wrong with using this argument with anti's. In addition to letting them know how easy it is to make bombs and poison gas from household chemicals, i point out that the worst school massacre so far did not involve guns. When they question that, I refer them to the Bath Michigan disaster in 1927 (when guns were everywhere).

But I generally argue that they will switch to another weapon that is easily available and cannot be controlled. We have already seen cases where people used cars for mass murders and attacks, such as driving into crowded shopping areas.

My point is to agree with you. Guns are not the problem, the people are.