RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:05 am
powerboatr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:03 am
which brings to front, why does jewish community vote democrat?
Because we (I'm Jewish) think appeasement will help keep us safe. "Just give them what they want and they will leave us alone." We've learned nothing since Warsaw.
I think it is not appeasement, or not fully so. Many Jews started believing in the Democratic party during and following WW2. There was rampant discrimination in the US and many people who supported the Nazis. At the time, the Democrats promised to be more welcoming. They are the party that fought for civil rights in the 50s and 60s, which is very consistent with Jewish values and was supported by a large number of Jews. I think, and I am not as devout a student of Judaism as I should be, that much of the liberal philosophy is very close to some basic Jewish principles, especially in helping the poor. It is considered a Mitzvah (good deed) to help others less fortunate than you.
Of course, a large number of Jews also supported the Communist revolution in Russia in 1917.
I was perhaps more fortunate in that my parents were Republicans when I was a child. The earliest political campaign I remember was helping my parents put up posters for Goldwater when I was eight. But I was also raised to believe in the saying "Never Again" in ways that most modern Jews are not. I had people in my synagogue that were survivors of the concentration camps. I recently found out that my mothers cousin, who was one of my first employers, had been a teen when he was liberated from a camp (Auschwitz I think). The attitude of my upbringing was that I should not start fights but self-defense was always justified and right.
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I'm quoting this from another source, but have not been able to find the original post from Gelbman... I don't Meta
This is from a Facebook page of a Ex-congregant by the name of Itamar Gelbman
In the world of "you can't make this stuff up"... This is my old synagogue, I left due to a few issues, first, the Rabbi called Israel an apartheid state against Islam, and a second, he didn't allow his members (including myself) to be armed during services. Now he is held hostage by a Muslim man with a gun.
I do use Facebook and looked it up. You have the quote correct from the posting there. There is a very interesting (to me) discussion in the comments where some people are questioning Mr. Gelbman's honesty and accuracy. Some are doubting that the rabbi posted anything about banning guns and others are asking for verification of his calling Israel and apartheid state. If you read this, you will see that Jews are much like any other group of people - divided on political issues and questioning when someone says something to contradict their preconceived notions.