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Well I feel compelled to force an increase in pressure in someones cranium...

If I am legally in the right in the successful use of deadly force...

Whether or not I am morally right, is not my call...He and I will take care of that somewhere down the road...

I have an extremely high degree of confidence that it (decision) will be the right one...

seamusTX wrote:

stevie_d_64 wrote:The defendent (shooter) was found not guilty, IIRC...

He was no-billed by the grand jury.

The deceased's history of irrational behavior probably helped.

- Jim

Thanks...I really forgot the particulars...When, and who took care of this...

seamusTX wrote:

pbandjelly wrote:That guy, that shot the drunk/druggie that was messing up his car (I think it was with a chunk of wood?).

I remember that incident. We never got a complete account of what happened. The deceased may have attacked the vehicle owner.

- Jim

The defendent (shooter) was found not guilty, IIRC...That determination was made recently, within the last month or so...

Like PB&J, the search for that thread goes on...

If someone chases you with a bat...And you run away to difuse the situation...And they continue pursuit...You stop and draw, and they still continue to close the distance, raising that bat above their head in the process...

I seriously doubt they are going to be hugging you when they catch up to you...

At which point...The decision has been made...And you were not the one that made that decision...

The rest is elementary...

LedJedi wrote:I think I would personally prefer emptying a can of pepper spray on the kid with a bat, unless he tried turning it on me. There's a lot less paperwork that way. Just wondering where the line of legal justification is.

And that very well may be sufficient and appropriate to stop a kid with a bat...Totally agree...

Wondering where that "line" is in other situations...hmmmmm...

Thats going to take longer to figure out than most of us have time on this earth...

But the attempt to define a personal threshold or "line" where you can reasonably determine how and if you should react in certain situations may fit the bill much easier than trying to write down a book of "What If's" and how you'd handle each and every one of those conditions...

I've always believed that those in the CCW community do a great job in that department...Its personal, its custom and no ones "line" is exactly the same...

"reasonably believes" have always been the key words here...As Xander posted the code...

Are any of these situations (as presented) warrant the use of deadly force??? No...

They certainly press the issue, but as it stands, these examples do not meet that criteria...

The advantage you have (and should always have) is that you are in control of your faculties, and have the distinct ability to control, difuse and or deal with it...Hopefully in that order...

Remember, be nice...