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Baytown wrote:I think a FTF at Luna's after CHL Range Day would do wonders on this issue. Maybe I'll put my gun in the car and have a couple of margaritas.

For those of you familiar with Cheers, you may remember Cliff's theory (to Norm) on how and why alcohol makes you smarter.

Glenn

BTW, I hope none take this as a personal slam, it is not. I just differ in opinions with some on this issue. (it is not because i am a cop)

Glenn

We'd both be good company...Besides I already know what ya look like...I sat behind you at the legal seminar at PSC Charles sponsored the other month...

Margarita's are the great equalizers of our day...

Baytown wrote:I will stop here before I get really spooled up.

Glenn

Don't do that...I'm not worth getting spooled up over...

Baytown wrote:For guys who say they don't consent because of "principle", duly noted on your stance, but who are you really hurting by trying to prove a point? Us, that's who.

Glenn

I understand your position, and I think it has merit...

My refusal to consent to a search is not a "personal disagreement" with the officer requesting that consent...

If I know I have nothing to hide, and I may even state as such to that officer...

I know there is nothing to search for...

I really wish I could find a middle ground here with Law Enforcement, or outright cave-in on my principles...Those priciples are not based on a rebellious agenda against Law Enforcement...

Principles are meant for face to face conversation, and I sure would enjoy giving you my take on this issue...Its just to much to describe and annotate here...

Besides everyone knows I type long and hard on things anyway...

I do see where you are coming from, and I am sure that if we talked about this it would beneficial to all involved...

Of course it is a bit suspicious to evade a "narcotics checkpoint" in the manner to which the deceased did...

I'm still scratching my head on the whole interdiction checkpoint deal...

I've heard and seen the DWI checkpoints before...But never one set up to randomly interdict drug traffic-kers...

I can imagine how I'd set something like that up, but I don't think I'd be on the job too long with those methods...

Can't profile, nor can you have any pre-conceived opinion on what a drug traffic-ker looks like...

So again, how effective is this system of interdiction, if you don't base it on tangible intelligence or profiling???

I'm just curious, I am not and have never been into drugs at all in my life...I have a pretty good idea what is involved from observing others who are effected by this problem...So how does a checkpoint like this work???

Does everyone get stopped momentarily to be questioned??? Or is it one where they sit on the side of the road, and go, "Lets go get that guy in the black Navigator with the chrome rims..."

I think the bottom line to the story here is that they got lucky and landed a guy who obviously had a few issues...And not for the reason they were out there in the first place...

Honestly, I am not being sarcastic or trying to be a pain to anyone in particular, but I think this could be a good thing to learn something from...

If I roll up on one of these, it sure would be in my best interest to follow the law and inform them of my licensed status...Anything after that would require a warrant...I respectfully decline to concent to search, and at that time I would ask if I can go...Its a hard thing to do for everyone involved, but I can take the ride better than some others...

I dunno, maybe this just hit my rebellious side a bit hard this morning...

I'll be better a little later today...

Not that I am wanting to appear to be a pain about this...I just have one question...

What "is" and "why" was an "interdiction checkpoint" setup there, and at that time of day???"

I have more questions, but thats the first thing I am a bit concerned about...

I agree as well, good job guys...