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Venus Pax wrote:

LedJedi wrote: In my mind that's like giving a class of kindergardeners a set of steak knives and then getting upset because they shredded the curtains.

These guys aren't kindergarteners. They knew exactly what they were doing.
As for using the law to fight them... changing the law could, and often does, take years. Publishing the editor's personal information was something that could be done immediately; I imagine it got the point across.

Absolutely!!!

You know Jedi, we are not kindergartners either...We are not an organized group of people who have the ability to blatantly publish for the general public (who would give a rats) on a regular basis, information, public or private, whether it be right or wrong for that information to be printed...

The reaction by the people in this case is indicative of how the law has failed or been deficient in protecting peoples privacy...Other states are slowly coming to grips with this...And they are changing the laws to protect this information...

So if that is the proper reaction to this issue, then the logical assumption should be that the original disclosure of permit holders personal "public" information in a public media forum was completely wrong and served no purpose in any capacity...

Mithras61 wrote:

Venus Pax wrote:

Mithras61 wrote:Truthfully, I don't care if my neighbors know I have a gun, aside from the potential harm that that information can do to me or others to have it be public (for example, the potential for break-ins to steal the handguns by BGs, or the impact it has on my childrens' lives).

Most people here don't mind anyone knowing we have guns in our homes; we're not ashamed of them.
However, it is wise to limited the number of people that know a) you have guns, and b) where you live for the reason you stated above.

Most of my students know that I have guns, and that shooting is a hobby. (Some have even brought their targets to school to show me how well they've done.) However, I don't make my address public knowledge-- I'm not naive enough to think there aren't a few aspiring felons in the mix.

Exactly my point. Publishing my name & address isn't the problem. The issue is that they intend harm to CHL holders.

Its the "correlation" of data, names, addreses and the fact that they are doing this because the CCW database is public record...Accessable...

Most goobs that might want to do us harm wouldn't actually spend the time to access or request this data...Nor have the smarts to do it...

I believe the maliciousness the editors of these papers illustrate is obvious...Their intent is clear...What you can do about it is subject to your personal threashold of tolerance...

I could fall either way on this, as far as what you do about it...I am just glad Texas covered us this last session, so I don't see us in this state having to worry about this too much anymore...

But I absolutely feel outrage for the folks in states that allow the blatant abuse of public data information...

In the day and age of very clever ID theft and abuse of personal information...And everywhere we turn, some government or banking/credit agency dunderheads laptop with private information gets pinched...It really make you wonder why more folks like us don't circle the wagons and start to get their information (or at least make a concerted effort) off the grid...Sounds hard, or nearly impossible to do, but I don't think it would be that hard to do...

Now how that "really" effects you credit wise, or some other form of modern convienience (name some, I'm sure there are a lot of things you need to let other people have data on you beforehand)...

Maybe its something we should start to think about...

Since the Richmond, Virginia paper did this to this incident, I am wondering why it became this "new" thing to print interesting public record information on just people with CCW permits in the first place...

Just because you can, and have space available on your paper to do so, doesn't mean it is right...

And once its out in the open there is just not much you can do about it...There are also many reasons to be extremely angry, and not very nice to editors and papers for pulling stunts like this, but if taking them to court and sueing for whatever reason you can come up with doesn't work, and they (paer and their minions) hide beside a lame shield like the First Amendment, I say that just incites futher need to remove the accessability of this information from public record...

We've successfully done this in Texas, and a few other states have moved on this as well...So if some state hasn't done so, until they are compelled to do so, doesn't seem like much can be done till then for those folks...

I think this is all an under the radar attempt by the gun-control crowd to instigate these public releases of personal information...To somehow create this negative stigma via public knowledge that your nieghbors carry a gun to kill people because thats what they are used for...(I'm being sarcastic in delivery there)...

I'm just not sure what recourse is proper and effective to stop this from happening...Other than protecting the information legislatively...

Rex B wrote:I sure hope someone asked that newspaper editor how he would feel if he had to pass a federal background check and buy a license to exercise his 1st Amendment rights

Touche'!

Love it!