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G.C.Montgomery wrote:...Doing the math...

Edited to add: Again, I don't walk around planning for these sorts of scenarios. I think the chances of running into either situation is a billion to one and really not practical or reasonable for most armed citizens to train or plan against

G.C.,

I feel very confident in the way I figure the participants in the forum do the math...I agree with you the likely hood is slim to none in these cases...

But I do believe the outcome based education "results" we get here help...

I believe most would agree...

John R. Fuller wrote:Stevie d 64:
Look at what is happening right now on our very borders. If the National Guard of Arizona is not engaging an armed force, who is going to? We need to begin thinking about these types of issues, as I am of the opinion that what I just wrote about may occur. Thank You
John R. Fuller

The good thing about this is that is Arizona...This is Texas...I believe after what happened there got the other states to correct any deficiencies in their policies or ROE...

I also believe Arizona has quietly re-vamped their engagement policies as well...But you're not going to hear much about that in the mainstream media...

I believe that the threat you are describing is based more upon criminal exploitation and intent, rather than a concerted state sponsored campaign...Of course the state where they originate from is turning a blind eye to the issue, and will probably not do much to assist us in getting it under control...

I believe unless it comes within the bubble you put aroud you, there is not much we can do about it but be ready to react in a reasonable fashion to the threat if it ever crosses our path...

I believe you have valid concerns, and that the solutions, unfortunately, are going to have to be made by people way above our paygrades...

Let me clarify, I would believe you would be in the right to defend yourself with the use of deadly force if you reasonably believe that such force is necessary to the protection of your's and others lives...

In other words, if these armed groups were doing this in and around our country, you can be sure that we would not be the only ones concerned about what to do...

In both of these senarios, I would not be too concerned about the legalities or other constraints you may be putting yourself under...

To me these look like nightmare senarios that unless you are one of the first people they encounter or stop...I would summize that a sufficient force would be deployed to counter it with full support from local law enforcement...

As for that second senario, again, that one seems like a no-win situation other than if you have time and a means to fight your way out, with what you have on hand, with you between the bad guys and your family and them (family) heading away from the situation...

If the word started getting out in time about roaming gangs of armed illegals or other foriegn entities operating (in these parameters) within our borders...I think we'd have a few other things to worry about as well...