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You're right...

I certainly will not rely on the treeline to contain any shot that doesn't go to the berm/backstop...

PSC keeps the long range stuff low by a wall that forces you to shoot under it to keep the rounds going downrange low...Makes sense...

Since this will be a private deal, We'll just have to be hyper-safe in keeping the shots elevation low...

I don't think we'll have a problem at all with any safety issues...

Maybe soon we'll see some big clay/dirt berms on the south side of that long field next time they update the database...

Its amazing how much better perspective you have when you can compare tree and scrub growth over a span of time in these two photos...

I've been talking to the landlord (Dad) up there, and I mentioned we may want to clear a wider swath toward the SW side of that long field to open the lane up a bit...

At least we'll be fat on firewood for a while...

And come to think of it, some of those timbers would make for a good palisade support for a backstop...Sure it'll rot out over time, but it'll look neat...

Kevin...

We call "Shield Lake" "Beaver Lake" now...

My Grandmother will give you $20 a tail to clear some of them out...

Its harder than it looks...

Thanks for the suggestions...Looks like I got some homework...

Bet I get an "A"!

BTW, the northern 400m of that long field is my Dad's driving range...

The area is bounded by some challenging topography...

The eastern length just inside the treeline is a well defined deep-cut creek that is always wet and flowing (north to south)...

The cleared portion is flat, and the elevation change is negligable along the entire length of the clearing...

I believe we'd be better off shooting long range towards the south...

We have lots of place a short distance away that we can excavate and build up where we need it, a good "red clay" berm/backstop...

Plus having plenty of trees to make a pole barn as a sun and rain shelter to shoot from is part of the plan as well...

Hopefully if they ever decide to update the photos in this area, y'all will see some improvements soon...

See the long field running north to south between the two small lakes???

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Thats the one...

Of course it'll take a little time, and it'll be a private facility...

Having the acreage to do this helps, and nieghbors far from any possible harm when safety #1...

I've done some research, and shot at a bunch of facilities in the past...

And without sounding like a doof, I have yet to really figure out how high I really need to build up a backstop for certain types of shooting disciplines...

Of course I'll have a short-range bay for pistols, shotgun and other small bore firearms...

What I am wondering is how do you calculate, or if there even is a method to figure out a way to contain as best you can a longrange rifle situation...

I have stuff that can reach out there a long way, yet I want to get good at the 1000 yard shot...How realistic that is, will be determined...

But somewhere (and I may be wrong) I had heard there may be a formula to calculate how much of a berm you need for situations and certain range (distances)???

I can move tons of dirt if I need to and build to the sky, but I'm thinking I really down have to do that...

I'm not going to go wild sending stuff downrange, but if I had an idea what is realistic and safe, I can certainly work to some standard, even though this is going to be on private property...

Just thought I would throw this out there...See who bites...

Y'all can PM me if you need to tell me I'm barking up a tree with no squirrels in it...