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TxBlonde wrote:Yes it is better to give then recieve but I trust them with my children. I am glad your wife is going to be a teacher but I remember when it was alot better to be a teacher then it is now.

If we cussed at a teacher, down the hall to the principal we went to get a couple of swats on the rear with a paddle that had holes in it.

it is not like that now a days. They get to the office get in trouble and the next day they are at the school with a gun ready to shoot people over it.

You betcha I remember...And you know what...With a few exceptions with some on this forum, most would say I am a better person for all the corrections I received over my years in public education...

One of these days we may see a shift in the correctional policies in our public schools...I really hope so...

Its the litigious nature of our society which does not allow us to correct issues and problems before they become real problems down the road...

If I can admit to getting my rear-end swatted more times than I care to remember for all the stupid stuff I did in school, and knowing how I turned out as an adult...How can anyone say that this type of correctional method can't continue to work today???

I never, ever had feelings of revenge or violent tendencies towards any teacher or principal who administered this punishment...I was more shameful for what I perceived as ridicule from my classmates than anything, and you knew not to retaliate towards them as well for it...

Its not going to happen over night...And the results will take years...

But I think it should be widely accepted and administered, more than just scooping them up and sending them to an "alternative" school...

This is where we need to turn this around folks!

TxBlonde wrote:This is why I will not be a teacher, it may be calling but to much drama to deal with for the little amount of money they get.

My wife is finishing up her classes to get her certificate to teach in Texas...

Especially with the violence in the schools now.

After a short discussion this morning, she's ready for it...She has this gift...shhhhhhh...

I would like to know that the teacher is willing to protect my children in the same manner I do.

See above...

I would take a bullet for any child and that is they it should be.

Sure, that is a commendable and laudable stance...But isn't it better to give, than to receive???

I can tell you she won't be teaching in the Houston area...

Ok guys and gals...

Don't slay me yet, because I am having mixed feelings (if you are ever allowed to have feelings, this is the time) about institutionalizing our public schools any more than they already are...

By formulating and implementing policy into our public schools in regards to arming adults who's primary job is to "teach" or administer a school I believe is a bad idea...

Its just a gut feeling I have, and one that I believe is based upon some experience...And we all have the same kind of experience when it comes to how much we all hear about how tough it is anyway to be a teacher...

That job is a calling, not a paycheck...And when a teacher, either by need or ordered to do so is tasked with a responsibility like this, which is above and beyond what they trained to do...I do not believe it will be effective enough...

If there was an equivalent situation, I would compare this to the "surface" expectations that the non-armed public expects if we were to have the option to open carry in this state...I don't want to get into a debate about that, I just want to illustrate what very well could happen if we arm teachers and others in the education system...This is honestly the only downside I see to the implementation, either in schools or for any one of us...

They (public) think that if you have a gun, you are the law...They will expect you to intervene at every instance of impropriatus behavior, because you do posess the instrument of intimidation...

I think its that simple, the kids and others who work with them will know (there's no way to get around it if they try this plan) who packs, and who doesn't...

Expectations will be high, and the results will not meet that expectation...

Now that I have gotten some of my "negative nancy" issues out of the way, I'll flip over and tell you why I think it might be a good idea...

Sure, we'll have some very good people who will be on hand to defend the kids and others in the school...And I doubt those schools will ever be hit by this opportunistic type of murderous behavior, by anyone...

But you have to recall why these people (criminals) do this at places they "know" will have little or no resistance?

We all know why, and since the "general" knowledge of our citizens is to know whats going on in situations like this, you know that a person who is committed to acts liek this is not going to go where they believe they will fail...They are going to seek out the places they know will be the path of least resistance...

I feel that if we do implement arming of schools staffs around the country, that there will be places that this will not be very likely to happen...

Yet there will always be large pockets of our country where it will always be a threat, because they will not, or will not be allowed to do this...

And thats where we'll hear about another incident when it does occur...

I hate to be so negative, its not in my nature to be this way...

And if I had a solution or idea I would certainly throw it out there...

But this issue escapes me for some reason...

A deep-seeded political philosophy I have is that I feel it is extremely difficult to legislate human/social behavior, there will always be a work around that laws cannot keep up with, much less for those with ill intent will follow in the first place...

This problem is not IN the schools at first glance, it IS though outside right now, and its waiting for the right moment to come in again...

And unfortunately, no amount of policy, or ammo can stop a determined, premeditated person(s) from doing it again...

Don't get me wrong...I'm not a defeatist, I'm just trying to wrap around an idea that I am not totally onboard with yet...

I heard and saw this morning on FoxNews, the new girl on the morning show state unequivically on live TV...

"If your going to commit suicide, just do it! Don;t take others with you."

(they are sure going to have a meeting over that comment...)

And the comments regarding to the speculation as to why he did this???

Why did he let go all of the adults, male children???

Because he knew that little girls would cause him the least problems...

To which this was plain ole pure premeditated evil...

It'll never end folks...