Yep, you're right...I guess we'd know what the case would be if those games were held in a high school stadium, or other facility like the Toyota Center or Reliant Stadium...Maybe even a college campus facility...Zero_G wrote:Not every time - only High School, College, or pro events. Community youth sports leagues aren't covered.stevie_d_64 wrote:To me the law is clear...If someone is throwing a ball, kicking a fieldgoal, smacking a puck to the net...That is a no go zone...Every single time...
Keeping it on topic, the Toyota Center has properly sized and worded 30.06 signs posted. 30.05 may let you beat the rap, but not the ride (if you have enough $$$).
Keith
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- Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:57 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Toyota Center?
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Re: Toyota Center?
- Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:40 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Toyota Center?
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Re: Toyota Center?
It is amazing how right we are when this particular issue comes up whether it is the Toyota Center or any other facility that has multiple functions wherever you live in this state...
To me the law is clear...If someone is throwing a ball, kicking a fieldgoal, smacking a puck to the net...That is a no go zone...Every single time...
But when there are dinosaurs, Engleberg Humperdink, Disney on Ice or any other non-sporting event...That to me negates the restriction, yet the facility conducts its business as usual...And they do not care about the nuances of the law...So most of us don't even go to events like this because of the ambiguity and un-educated nature of the facility managers and their handlers...
What do we do???
Well we talk about it here, yet it seems even though there are some outstanding discussions about this very issue, no one in Austin every two years seems to have an idea how to clear this up...
There have beena few things going on that have done some good for our side of the equation, like SB501 comes to mind right off the bat...But even then the opponents to that delayed full compliance till the next session two years later...Very frustrating...
Until penalties can be enforced to facilities and businesses that restrict us, against the law mind you...Nothing will happen...
I'm going to take Wife-Unit to the ballet this next weekend...And yes, I will carry, looking very snappy in a suit and tie for that evening...Do I carry because I think the Sugarplum Fairy is going to go postal on stage??? Absolutely not...I carry because I can, and that I will not be spending the night, or a lot of time inside the Wortham Center...I will be in downtown Houston, in public, spending our time walking around, eating and being entertained...Plain and simple...
Explain to me and anyone else why I should walk outside my door for an evening like that and adjust my lifestyle just because some people believe that if it is posted for one type of event, and they have another type of entertainment, that they can restrict, just because???
I know there is something that could be done to correct this issue, and if it takes a bill to correct it, so be it...I think it is a waste of time, yet, if these venues would educate their management and staff that run the facilities, we might not be having these conversations...
Just my opinion...
To me the law is clear...If someone is throwing a ball, kicking a fieldgoal, smacking a puck to the net...That is a no go zone...Every single time...
But when there are dinosaurs, Engleberg Humperdink, Disney on Ice or any other non-sporting event...That to me negates the restriction, yet the facility conducts its business as usual...And they do not care about the nuances of the law...So most of us don't even go to events like this because of the ambiguity and un-educated nature of the facility managers and their handlers...
What do we do???
Well we talk about it here, yet it seems even though there are some outstanding discussions about this very issue, no one in Austin every two years seems to have an idea how to clear this up...
There have beena few things going on that have done some good for our side of the equation, like SB501 comes to mind right off the bat...But even then the opponents to that delayed full compliance till the next session two years later...Very frustrating...
Until penalties can be enforced to facilities and businesses that restrict us, against the law mind you...Nothing will happen...
I'm going to take Wife-Unit to the ballet this next weekend...And yes, I will carry, looking very snappy in a suit and tie for that evening...Do I carry because I think the Sugarplum Fairy is going to go postal on stage??? Absolutely not...I carry because I can, and that I will not be spending the night, or a lot of time inside the Wortham Center...I will be in downtown Houston, in public, spending our time walking around, eating and being entertained...Plain and simple...
Explain to me and anyone else why I should walk outside my door for an evening like that and adjust my lifestyle just because some people believe that if it is posted for one type of event, and they have another type of entertainment, that they can restrict, just because???
I know there is something that could be done to correct this issue, and if it takes a bill to correct it, so be it...I think it is a waste of time, yet, if these venues would educate their management and staff that run the facilities, we might not be having these conversations...
Just my opinion...