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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I wish every anti-gun organization had someone just like him at the helm.

Chas.

??? deceased ???

I'm not intending to be morbid, or disrespectful to those whom have passed on...

Just from a political perspective...

I didn't like or appreciate his political agenda either...Nor any of his minions...

"In Texas, businesses have the right to keep concealed weapons out of buildings. Now there's a move to allow companies to prohibit them from parking lots, too and that has some concealed carriers upset."

This was the only thing I saw...And its not very clear about who and what is "moving" to extend the perimeter of a business out to include parking lots as off limits to people to store a firearm in their vehicle while they are working...

I mean that's a corporate policy, not state law...

If the company wants protection from liability by extending that to parking lots, then that is totally inappropriate for state government to bless that by altering the law as it stands now...

I see this whole issue not going very far at this time...

Its just one of those things that increases the tempo of the debate in general, and doesn't really get traction...Not that it isn't a risk to us, but it does get the right attention and doesn't go much further than that...

I think everyone who viewed it and commented saw what I saw...

Interviewing mainly women concerning one particular aspect of the issue was a bit of a distraction from the main point of what they sold us on to watch the story in the first place...And that was the ability, and the right to carry your firearm to work...

The arguments for and against that were fairly predictable...

I didn't think Tomasita Garza was still active with the TGS folks...Much less still willing to give a "worn out" TV counterpoint like she did...

But another aspect, and I may need someone else to confirm this, but did Texas law ever come up in the story??? I'm not sure because the argument was based upon Conoco-Phillips fighting the Oklahoma law that protected employees from corporate policies about not bringing guns to the workplace and keeping them in your vehicle in company parking lots...

I just didn't get a solid feeling about that...

I also thought Oklahoma's CCW law was "pretty similar", but not totally identical, to Texas's law...In regards to places you can, and cannot go with a concealed firearm...And their "premises" definition is similar to Texas in regards to how they view parking lots, and other public right-of-ways...

One interesting point, or lack of complete scope of the issue, that Tomasita made in regards to the criminal risk involved with storing a "gun" in your vehicle was that that vehicle alone could be stolen...Not the fact that of course some who do store a firearm in their vehicles could have them stolen...duh?

Just the fact that you may have a "gun" in the car doesn't increase or decrease that aspect of the crime...

I believe the precentages and statistics of how many vehicles are stolen or burglarized in a company parking lot is a very important factor to the issue...And that different types of businesses that either have, or do not have proprietary, controlled access to those parking lots for employees is important to factor into the equation...

I think the simplistic negative attitude to have, is to lump everyone into the same boat when it comes to carrying a firearm to and from work, and that, regardless of the methods of storage or carrying of that firearm in compliance (or disregard) of corporate policy, is the simple "ninnie" thought process that assumes that if an employee is fired from that job for any reason, their first reaction would be to go to their vehicle and retrieve the weapon and start shooting their former co-workers...

To me thats the underlying, and seldom voiced fear, some of the "ninnies" have when it comes to this issue...

I can't recall any workplace shootings happening with the former employee having immediate access to a firearm and immediately shooting up the workplace...It has always been my recollection that the shootings happened days, weeks, and even months after an employee was fired...And they had to either aquire the firearm, that was not thiers to begin with, or had to leave, mull over the firing, and choose to act in an illegal manner way after the termination...

I just don't see the reason, other than the obvious ninnie-factor, that should effect our right as law-abiding citizens from being trust to maintain the ability to defend ourselves should be restricted because of those unfounded fears...

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Steve:
I too saw a promo for tonight's news, during last night's 10:00 p.m. news. I was rather surprised at the wording; something like "you can't carry a gun into work, but you have a right to have a gun in your car, but some people want to deny you that right in their parking lots . . ."

It's too good to be true to think that Ch. 11 is going to run a pro-gun spot, but I will admit they were far more balanced in their reporting on the CHL issue back when the fight to pass SB60 was on-going. Hopefully, I’ll be pleasantly surprised

Chas.

Thats what I'm thinking...I mean the fact that they'd air a story on the subject (pro or con) on the issue speaks volumes...

I can read between the lines and know right off if its going to be truely representative of the subject, or another fluff piece of drive-by journalism...

It may be setting a precidence to what may be coming in the next session...That may be early, but setting the tone in the court of public opinion, may be beneficial to the gun-control advocates...They may be weak overall, but they sure can stir up a mess with little effort...

I'm a student of the issue, and seeing how both sides play it benefits me to know exactly how to play off of their side of the argument...

And this is an opportunity (I just have a gut feeling) to see and hear how the same ole bull is played this time...

Unfortunately, I have to wake up to blaring TV morning news, till the cobwebs get cleared in the morning...Anyway...

They had a "hook" for tonights news talking about "guns" in parking lots where people work...ehem...

So since we talk about this stuff all the time, maybe it would be interesting to see how it is portrayed in the local media...

I am predicting the usual images of someone at the gunrange shooting a semi-"AUTOMATIC" handgun, in a very proficient manner, followed by a comment from a citizen (expert) who is for the idea, or pro self-defense and pro 2nd Amendment...

And quickly followed by some member of the gun-control ninnie crowd...

And possibly wrapped up by a member of the law-enforcement community (who is impartial, but is cautiously pessemistic about the need to actually store a "gun" in your car while at work...i.e.: risk of theft, etc etc)...Thanks guy, we need to let people know there may be MORE reason to smash and grab now, if it becomes more common place...

And we may even see a politician explain the idea from their prospective...

Who knows...Its may be a roll of the dice, but I try to watch these things to see if I call it right...

Its on their 10 o'clock news tonight...

Just thought y'all might like to know, just in case...

Make your predictions here on how it'll be portrayed...