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Like Flint implied...

There appears to be no definitive answer to this senario...

But...

The answers and commentary so far further solidify my opinion and confidence that the folks here will conduct themselves appropriately and reasonably...

I had no doubt about that at all, for what my opinion is worth...

The mere fact that anything can and will happen, that no one can ever foresee is an understatement...But I think we make seamless adjustments for any condition...

I believe the best spin-off discussion was the whole detainment/arrest issue...Although I think its is a rare occurrance, and most of us know what we'd do in that case...Its good to rejuvinate the gray matter on the subject...

If anything, I do believe it is also a "duty" or responsibility to de-escalate even an imminent use of deadly force condition, to something less than that response, if you can of course...But that is just a personal opinion...

This is another great thread...

Not that its a big deal to me, because I do not really worry about it too much...

What really is the difference between "arrest" and "detainment"???

I have my own conclusions about the concept, but I see these situations come up in discussions quite a bit, and know that if you manage to "detain" someone, they are actually in your charge, and their well being is your responsibility...So that kinda puts the burn on you to make sure they remain "well", till you "officially" relinquish custody to the proper authority...

Now with that said, I believe it is should not be a priority or consideration with people with carry licenses to act as Law Enforcement in this capacity...

So since I do think you do have some liberty to "detain" a suspect (if given that opportunity, due to the situation), you may not in "some" jurisdictions have authority to "arrest"...Which incurs some sort of official capacity on your part which you may not be commissioned to perform...So learning what you can, and cannot do in your area is another step in feeding that mindset and applying it to your life...

So to put it simply, if they get up and run...Let 'em go...

If they get up and threaten you more so...Thats a call you have to make based upon what they do at that time...

I am not Law Enforcement, so I choose to not act, or imply in any capacity to anyone else that I am...

And there is another aspect to this senario, that needs to be addressed, that after proper authority arrives, there are certain things you should do not to allow the situation to go out of control...And thats another, separate discussion...

Ok, y'all were waiting for me huh???

I would say Deadly force is not justified, if you have successfully disarmed them with the weapon they are threatening you with...

And if they are submitting, to your "request", that they remain submissive till Law Enforcement arrives...Then you should be ok...

But...

If they run away, deadly force, in my opinion is not justified either, and you should just be a good witness, and give good information to help L.E. catch the suspect...

But...

If they get up and produce another weapon and continue the attack...Well...Thats your call...

But...(last one)...

If they get up, and they have another partner, and they are armed as well...You have a quick decision to make...If they both attack...

I bet you wish you hadn't left your trusted carry piece at home at that point...

There's just a lot of what-if's in this one...

And its difficult, if not impossible, to assume anyone (criminals) will do anything you expect in situations like this...

So Charles, txinvestigator...Get in here and comment...Y'all are not off the hook on this one...yet...