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philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:27 pm
Was the ship that sunk carrying nukes?

Yes.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:33 pm

eyedoc wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:44 pm

I saw this tweet just this morning. Putin's domestic propaganda program is pretty successful.

Seems as if a few people here are falling for it too.

philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:43 pm I guess no more Geneva Convention.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russ ... SKBN1WW2IN

WORLD NEWS
OCTOBER 17, 201912:25 PMUPDATED 2 YEARS AGO
Russia's Putin revokes Geneva convention protocol on war crimes victims

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has revoked an additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions related to the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, a Russian parliamentary website cites a letter from him as saying.

The Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Convention was ratified by the Soviet Union’s Supreme Council, or parliament, in 1989.

Putin’s letter, dated Oct. 16 and addressed to the speaker of lower house of parliament on the “recall of the statement made at the ratification”, said an international commission, set up in order to investigate war crimes against civilians, “has effectively failed to carry out its functions since 1991”.

“In the current international environment, the risks of the commission’s power abuse by the states, which are acting in bad faith, are increasing significantly,” says the document cited by the website that documents laws proposed and passed by the Russian parliament.

It also said that there was no Russian representative on the commission, while Russia has been regularly paying its fees.

It gave no further details about what prompted the decision.

Russia has been accused by critics of causing multiple civilian deaths since its involvement in the Syrian conflict. It was also blamed for killings of civilians during its short war with Georgia in 2008. Moscow denies the allegations.

extremist wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:16 am We are not going to agree. Here's another interesting view.

https://occidentaldissent.com/2022/04/0 ... stone-age/

Hunter Wallace is a pen name of Bradley Griffin. This is who wrote that piece.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... an-griffin

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/ ... story.html

About Bradley Dean Griffin
Brad Griffin is the proprietor of Occidental Dissent (OD), a blog devoted to white nationalism. Griffin has reported on the movement’s happenings — from street demonstrations to infighting — with a dedication that has yielded him one of the most loyal followings among white nationalist websites. Griffin has been both a staunch critic of, and one of the most prolific participants in, the scores of online feuds between white nationalism’s various camps.

In his own words
“Personally, I want to create a Jew-free, White ethnostate in North America. That’s why I call myself a White Nationalist.”
— “C of CC Under the Microscope,” Occidental Dissent, June 8, 2010

“I was committed to ‘free speech’ back then when I was a naïve college student.”
— MajorityRights.com, September 14, 2011

“A serious movement doesn’t have time to debate inane questions like ‘should slavery be restored in the 21st century’ or ‘should non-Anglos be sterilized’ or ‘should all the non-Whites be exterminated’ or ‘should abortion be legalized to cull the black population,’ etc., etc. Every single one of these red herrings drives a wedge and would contribute to our stigmatization and marginalization.”
— “What Is A Southerner?” Occidental Dissent, February 17, 2017

“Powerful Jews oppose the assertion of White identity while encouraging the expression of every other identity in order to weaken Whites!”
— Twitter, June 29, 2017

"The police in Charlottesville stood down and didn't do their jobs, and deliberately allowed anarchy to reign in the streets. They persuaded us to come to Lee Park unarmed for our peaceful event while secretly ceding control of the streets to violent Antifa."
— Occidental Dissent, August 14, 2017

Background
Griffin grew up in Eufaula, Alabama. In 2000, he enrolled at Auburn University where, as a sophomore, he explicitly entered the world of white nationalism after reading Pat Buchanan’s The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil our Culture and Civilization. Griffin claims that his time growing up in Alabama’s Black Belt region instilled in him the belief that “race existed and that racial differences were real,” that there was a “connection between racial identity and politics” and that he had “populist instincts.” Buchanan, according to Griffin, was responsible for his interest in “changing racial and cultural differences” and, ultimately, for his being "red-pilled" after coming to believe that “Western civilization as a whole was dying and that a great historical event was unfolding within [his] lifetime.”

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:18 pm

extremist wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:06 pm I think there's some truth in this essay.

https://dailyreckoning.com/rickards-ive ... many-lies/

Maybe some, but it’s mostly manure.

A SOVEREIGN nation makes its own decisions about with whom it will choose to ally itself. If that nation chooses an alliance that is not regarded as favorable by one of its neighbors, that is NOT a "provocation". The use of that word is the kind of bovine manure used by despots like Putin to "justify" their illegal aggressions. An example of a real provocation would be if Ukraine had begun jamming Russian communications networks, or had hacked into and attempted to take down Russia’s Ministry of Defense computer systems, or had planted a bomb in a Syrian nightclub known to be frequented by Russian soldiers. THOSE would be real provocations, perhaps justifying a Russian military intervention into Ukraine. Maybe.

But Ukraine has not done those things. All Ukraine has done was to be favorable to joining an alliance that Russia prefers they didn’t. But it’s not Russia's right to determine the outcome. Russia can seek to influence the decision-making process through diplomacy. And please note: Ukraine has been a sovereign nation for 32 years…and to this day has never actually been invited to join NATO. But at the end of the day, it is 100% Ukraine's right as a SOVEREIGN nation to decide its own direction for itself, and Russia has zero right to invade Ukraine.

NONE.

If you don’t believe that, then don’t ever talk to me about American sovereignty, or State sovereignty, or Texan sovereignty, because you obviously don’t believe in those things either.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sovereignty

Definition of sovereignty
1a : supreme power especially over a body politic
b : freedom from external control : AUTONOMY
c : controlling influence
2 : one that is sovereign
especially : an autonomous state

Ukraine is an autonomous sovereign state. Russia is a rogue nation, which has invented preposterous reasons to justify its aggressions. Oh, and Putin is a pig.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:31 pm

extremist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:53 am

…Russia has ZERO right to invade Ukraine for any reason whatsoever.

I disagree. For a much wiser man's explanation, I suggest this article.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/03/vas ... an-crisis/

And I disagree. Rockwell's article explains, but it fails to justify. We can use the same "logic" to justify invading Mexico…which is also a corrupt nation that abuses human rights and acts against our own interests. But of course, invading Mexico would be idiotic, not to mention morally wrong. Or, we could use that logic to invade Canada because Trudeau is a threat to our security. After all, his leadership of Canada is a threat to democracy everywhere…and we can’t have that right there along the 5,525 mile border we have with them.

I completely understand why Putin did it. I also understand perfectly well why Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK, or why Tonya Harding put the whack on Nancy Kerrigan. But understanding why Oswald and Harding did what they did, is not the same as justifying it.

Sovereign nations get to choose with whom they prefer to be allied. PERIOD. If another nation doesn’t like that alliance, that does NOT justify a "preemptive invasion". ALSO PERIOD. Putin is a pig.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:23 pm

srothstein wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:46 pm I notice one interesting thing about that shelled hospital. I could be wrong, but I do not see any holes in the walls of it such as would result from a direct hit. The destruction I saw looks more like concussion from near misses, such as hitting a building nearby or counter-battery fire against an artillery unit in the field next to the hospital.

Some of the apartment buildings nearby appear to have hits from light artillery, but only a few. That strikes me as someone was shelling a target nearby. Artillery is not always a precision weapon. Much as I cannot always put bullets in the same hole at fifty feet using a bench rest, a cannon cannot put its shells in the same spot every time.

Since the media is only showing the aftermath (for justifiable reasons), I am forced to admit that the evidence shows a possibility that Russia was telling the truth about firing at a military target and the damage is simply collateral damage from that.

I support Ukraine in this war, but I am also honest enough to admit that it is possible they put military targets near a hospital. Not directly using it as human shield type cover, but in an urban war it is hard to not have things happen like that near schools and hospitals. We built our cities that way.

And I’m not saying that Russia deliberately targeted a maternity hospital…but I am saying that they shelled it none the less. And if Russia had not invaded Ukraine, that maternity hospital would not have been shelled. At all.

Artillery and rocket barrages are battlefield denial weapons. They’re meant for flattening an entire grid square, not for surgically precise strikes. Russia knows this, as does any other first world nation. Short of total hyper-war, like the retaking of Manila or Hue, there’s NO excuse for this. If you have to strike a target in the middle of an urban environment, then for God's sake, use a drone with a guided missile, like our Reaper/Hellfire, or use a surgical air strike with appropriately sized smart-bombs. Russia surely has this technology. Surely they know how to use it. They have no moral ground to stand on for not using it.

If they want to complain that their aircraft are at risk to Ukrainians with MANPADs, well, that’s their problem. If they had not invaded Ukraine, their aircraft would not be at risk. They do not have a moral leg to stand on.

Ukraine has EVERY right to defend their national sovereignty. Russia had NO right to violate Ukraine's national sovereignty. Absent that right, it’s none of their damned business if Ukraine emplaces a defensive military asset near a hospital, whether or not it was intentionally done that way. It’s simply not Russia's decision to make. But it IS Russia's responsibility if her battlefield commanders commit war crimes. Certain Americans went on trial for atrocities committed in the GWOT…ostensibly to accomplish some mission or other. What’s good for them is good for Russians too. Lock those thuggish Russians up.

powerboatr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:09 pm and joy reid blames RACE on why news is covering Ukraine

she was all upset the news didnt give syria as much attention.
hmmm lawerence jones hit it on the head in his take
he stated she has a show, why was she not in syria or covering it????

syria = all the fighting age men LEFT their country . begging rest of world to take them in..that turned out well for france and germany

Ukraine= fighting age men and women are staying behind to fight for their country

race is not a factor...patriotism and desire to keep your country IS.

Even old men and women are fighting the Russians in the Ukraine.

philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:42 pm

Oh just great. Covid 2.0

How reliable is Putin's propaganda machine? I have not found RT completely believable.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:35 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:18 pm

I saw that video on Fox News! Crazy stuff. What many forget about is that there were human beings on board that thing that were vaporized. Just saying it is a thought that goes through my mind. Imagine their last thoughts ever on this earth. It had to be OH Shoot!

My dad was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam that went down. All aboard were killed instantly. I see a video like that and think of him. As crazy as that may sound.

I thought of that and saw the cockpit was out of the flames until it impacted the ground about 3 1/2 seconds after the rocket hit them. They did not suffer.