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dhoobler wrote:

TexasCajun wrote:

dhoobler wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

jason812 wrote:I did my part to try to keep Obama from being elected, twice. Does that mean I blame every body that stayed home or voted 3rd party for him being elected, no. I blame the Republican party for giving us McCain and Romney. I don't blame the people that didn't want to vote for them for Obama's election. For all those that want to blame me if I don't vote for Trump, it's not a 100 percent no, for Hillary winning, do you blame those that didn't vote for McCain or Romney or do you blame the party that put them on the ballot?

The Republican Party didn't give us Trump, McCain or Romney. Registered Republican voters made that decision. People who didn't get the candidate want to blame the "establishment" and the "Party" but voters determine the candidate.

Yes, I blame anyone who sat out an election and didn't vote against Clinton and Obama and I'll do likewise with anyone who doesn't vote against Clinton II. I'll pull the lever for Trump, but I'll be voting for gun owners and the Second Amendment and against Clinton.

Chas.

I respectfully disagree with you that the voters gave us McCain or Romney. The voters chose from the options available. The republican establishment had control over who we got to choose from. The RNC also controlled the process by which the candidate was chosen, which can influence the outcome.

I think that the Trump phenomenon is backlash against the RNC. He would not have been successful but for his money and the seemingly unlimited coverage he got from the networks.

I think that one of the biggest problems with the selection of the republican candidate is that the blue states go first. I would like to change the sequence of republican primaries. Whichever state gave the biggest margin of victory in the general election to the republican candidate gets to go first.

Actually, each state gets to decide the method by which the delegates to the national convention are awarded. The states also get to decide when they hold their primary vote (assuming there's no pending court case challenging voting laws, district apportionment, etc). If what you are saying were true, the RNC's preferred Bush, Rubio, Kasich, etc would be the presumptive nominee instead of Trump. Just as has happened this year, the voters decided to run McCain and then Romney - they just happened to be the preferred RNC choices among the other RNC choices.

Romney's "RNC Power Grab": What Really Happened
http://www.freedomworks.org/content/rom ... y-happened

Yesterday, the Republican National Committee in Tampa adopted some changes to the rules of the national Republican Party that shift power from the state parties and the grassroots to the RNC and the GOP presidential nominee. Former Governor John Sununu of New Hampshire touted the new rules as providing “a strong governing framework” for the party over the next four years. But in fact the new rules should be very troubling and disappointing to conservative grassroots activists, because they move the national Republican Party away from being a party that is decentralized and bottom-up toward becoming one that is centralized and top-down.

dhoobler wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

jason812 wrote:I did my part to try to keep Obama from being elected, twice. Does that mean I blame every body that stayed home or voted 3rd party for him being elected, no. I blame the Republican party for giving us McCain and Romney. I don't blame the people that didn't want to vote for them for Obama's election. For all those that want to blame me if I don't vote for Trump, it's not a 100 percent no, for Hillary winning, do you blame those that didn't vote for McCain or Romney or do you blame the party that put them on the ballot?

The Republican Party didn't give us Trump, McCain or Romney. Registered Republican voters made that decision. People who didn't get the candidate want to blame the "establishment" and the "Party" but voters determine the candidate.

Yes, I blame anyone who sat out an election and didn't vote against Clinton and Obama and I'll do likewise with anyone who doesn't vote against Clinton II. I'll pull the lever for Trump, but I'll be voting for gun owners and the Second Amendment and against Clinton.

Chas.

I respectfully disagree with you that the voters gave us McCain or Romney. The voters chose from the options available. The republican establishment had control over who we got to choose from. The RNC also controlled the process by which the candidate was chosen, which can influence the outcome.

I think that the Trump phenomenon is backlash against the RNC. He would not have been successful but for his money and the seemingly unlimited coverage he got from the networks.

I think that one of the biggest problems with the selection of the republican candidate is that the blue states go first. I would like to change the sequence of republican primaries. Whichever state gave the biggest margin of victory in the general election to the republican candidate gets to go first.

flintknapper wrote:

Not a shred of evidence exists that Trump is a second amendment supporter other than him claiming he is a supporter.

The same could be said about most of the good folks on this forum, right?

Aside from membership in several pro-gun groups, you wouldn't be able to 'prove' that I (or others) were 2A supporters either.

Trump has likely never had a NEED to show support (or not) of the 2nd amendment. In fact, I would think a 'businessman' would make an effort NOT to publicly share his convictions.

NOW that he is immersed in 'politics' (God help him), he pretty much has to. I take him at his word.