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by TexasCajun
Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:16 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?
Replies: 85
Views: 12866

Re: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?

TXBO wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote: ... We've passed many great bills and have made great strides in expanding Second Amendment rights, but I believe that HB308 should have been the cornerstone of the 2015 Texas Legislative Session -- but it wasn't. I'm mad and I'm sick that HB308 went nowhere; it is no better off than HB195 or SB342 and I'm not happy. However, I understand why neither the NRA nor TSRA put their political muscle behind HB308. To say it was a controversial bill would be an understatement. The media would have had a field day with "guns everywhere, guns everywhere!" It's right up there with "the British are coming, the British are coming!" The primary reason HB308 was not a priority bill is NRA and TSRA were using huge amounts of political capitol to pass open-carry and to a lesser degree, campus-carry. I still believe we should pass campus-carry because it is the right thing to do even though it differs from our standard procedure of supporting bills that provide the most benefits to most people. At this point in time, HB308 would have worked to the extreme benefit of 846,000+ Texas CHLs and this number will continue to grow. That's how strongly I feel about removing off-limits areas for CHLs, but you haven't heard me lash out at NRA/TSRA for not making MY priority their priority. That's not how you bill strong and effective relationships; you don't abandon friends who share your goals but not your priority list. Contrast this approach with the OCT approach of attacking, condemning and lying about anyone and everyone who does not share both their goals and there tactics.

Chas.
I believe your philosophy of "supporting bills that provide the most benefit to most people" is an admirable approach. I would personally benefit from being able to carry more places but I would argue that only having 846k+ people in Texas that can legally carry is disappointing. I'd like it to be a priority to see that number multiply.



I suspect that is the ultimate goal for many. However, we have to work with the process available and that involves making incremental improvements as we can. Trying for the whole enchilada this go around would have killed the deal all together.

I certainly understand the political hazards. Increasing accessibility does not need to be the "whole enchilada" any more than decreasing restrictions on current CHL. I have not seen one bill this session that I believe has a viable chance of increasing accessibility in the slightest.
We didn't end up where we are overnight. So we have to remember that removing restrictions and increasing availability won't be accomplished overnight either. In 2013, the number of class hours for a CHL was reduced by half. Just that measure by itself increased accessibility AND decreased restrictions. Granted, it wasn't anything earth-shattering or monumental. But it was a step in the right direction.

This year, we're going to dip our toe into the open carry pool (decreased restriction) for a portion of the population that we expect to be able to carry the banner and provide proof that the dire predictions won't come true. We'll need that data and those facts when it's time to tackle the next obstacle in the same way that we've been able to use the 20yr record of CHLs.

Continued success in the politics of gun rights is going to depend on our ability to see things as they are and address the current reality using long-term goals and perspectives.
by TexasCajun
Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?
Replies: 85
Views: 12866

Re: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?

Brantoc wrote:Stupidity like this is why I haven't re-uped with the NRA. Claiming OCT is pro gun control because they are fine with a more basic sign?? what the heck?

Speaking as a CHL holder, if a business has a sign that is not proper 30.06, I STILL DO NOT VISIT THAT BUSINESS.
I view any victim rich zone sign as a notice they do not want my money. Period.
AMC Firewheel in Garland is a prime example. They have 30.06 printed correct size on (1) total door of the 12+ and it is all the way on the ground.
I might have visited it a few times before I even saw it because it is basically invisible unless you happen to look down going in THAT ONE DOOR.

Do I visit AMC Firewheel armed or disarmed? How about not at all any more. I don't care the sign is not to code. They are stating they do not want my money. I won't give it to them.
NOTE - Friend says it is on 2 total doors now.. of the more than 12.
Kind of jumping the gun, aren't you? You guys are supposed to wait until after the legislative session has concluded before claiming that the NRA and/or TSRA has sold out Texas gun owners. I'd suggest thinking about baseball for a while.
by TexasCajun
Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:05 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?
Replies: 85
Views: 12866

Re: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?

joe817 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:OCT is causing more problems for Texas gun owners that have yet come to light . . . More info after the session is over.

Chas.
:shock: :headscratch Not even a hint? Great. One more thing to worry about. :???:
Most of the time it's not what you say, but when you say it, that has the most impact. This forum is popular fodder for those that have their own agendas. So it's best to not given them the arrows while we are still in the thick of it.
by TexasCajun
Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:16 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?
Replies: 85
Views: 12866

Re: OCT Pro-Gun or Pro-Gun Control?

Considering how the constitutional carry folks are actually going to try to sink licensed open carry with amendments that they consider to be "improvements", it's becoming pretty clear that they will work toward their own ends without regard to the overall picture. Their damage won't be limited to just the current licensed open carry bills since open carry has pushed better bills (specifically HB308 and SB273) to the sidelines. And now they'll even go so far as to back an obvious anti-gun bill proposed by someone that rose to prominence due to their wrong-headed tactics. Say what you will about Moms or Everytown, but at least they are smart enough to get a paycheck for advocating gun-control.

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