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by TexasCajun
Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:30 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10243

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

LaUser wrote:
TVGuy wrote:Negative, no handling skills were taught.

I know I'm going to get hardcore flamed on this, but I don't think there is nearly enough training. Yes, it is your right to carry. The safety and proficiency levels of MANY people with CHLs is extremely low.

I've been to renewal classes (when that was still around) that multiple people had not fired their weapon since the last CHL proficiency test. That's completely irresponsible. I hate to say it, but I think there are more of those than people who go out even every six months...which is still not enough.
I agree. There is not enough training. What we currently have is a joke. There should be more classroom time, safety handling training and yearly range qualification.

Years ago on another forum, someone was complaining because he could not carry like LEO's do. Among other things, like extensive training and retraining, they are required to qualify at the range yearly, at least where I come from. I think if you want to carry a pistol, you have to show proficiency on a yearly basis. LEOSA requires this.
The CHL class is not training and was never designed to be. Most CHL instructor websites even go so far as to state that the CHL class is not where you want to be if you've never handled a gun before or want to learn how to effectively use one. The CHL class is and always has been simply proof that a person can perform to a minimum required standard. As it should be, proficiency and training are the responsibility of the individual. Any government-mandated training level would be minimum at best so as not to unduly burden or exclude a large number of people. So even then, the mandated training wouldn't accomplish any of the goals that some have advocated for here.
by TexasCajun
Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:24 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?
Replies: 83
Views: 10243

Re: Is The CHL Proficiency Test Sufficient?

jmra wrote:I don't know it for a fact but my assumption is the only reason that the class and range requirements were included in the bill in the first place was because it was the only way to get it passed. Of course I could be wrong about that.
I often wonder why people who believe we need tougher requirements for CHL classes are not fighting to pass legislation that would require training prior to purchasing a firearm. After all these same untrained people have guns in their homes and their cars without any training requirements. I often wonder why they only became such a danger to themselves and society when they decided to get a CHL but weren't before that.
Just to be clear, I don't support any additional training requirements.
I think the difference is that the chl allows you to carry a gun with you where the others would have you leave the gun secured somewhere.

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