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Not many industries that I can think of that have over 3/4 of a million nonessential workers.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

TexasCajun wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:I'd love to see multiple parties. Its healthier for democracy.

On that, we can agree. That speaks to another one of the institutional weakness of the republicans. They've made their choice. Now they have to sleep with it. From now on, they will only ever govern by coalition, and that weakens their position even further. In the other corner, the commies are all happy little bots because they get free stuff.

Lots of Republicans get free stuff off the government too. Every government contract out there is someone's meal ticket.

You can't intelligently equate someone living on welfare, using their obamaphone, and soon getting their medical through obamacare to a company being awarded a government contract.

Sure I can. The government industrial complex is a hungry beast. More relevantly in an earlier position I dealt with several clients who's majority of cash flows were from government contracts. Extremem good old boy with "bidding" contracts tailored to their products. They certainly weren't OWS protestors.

Democrats do it too (Solyndra, Tesla). Its all crony capitalism.

Then hang your hat on your president. You've taken this thread beyond the theater of the absurd. If you can't/won't distinguish between the leeches living off the hardworking taxpayers, political payola, and companies that provide critical product and/or services; there's not much that I can say that will get through to you.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:I'd love to see multiple parties. Its healthier for democracy.

On that, we can agree. That speaks to another one of the institutional weakness of the republicans. They've made their choice. Now they have to sleep with it. From now on, they will only ever govern by coalition, and that weakens their position even further. In the other corner, the commies are all happy little bots because they get free stuff.

Lots of Republicans get free stuff off the government too. Every government contract out there is someone's meal ticket.

You can't intelligently equate someone living on welfare, using their obamaphone, and soon getting their medical through obamacare to a company being awarded a government contract.

The bottom line on Cruz is that he's got the right idea. If the republican establishment won't get on board, then they need to get out of the way. If they won't get out of the way, them they need to be made to do so (through election). For the sake of Texas, I sincerely hope Cornyn gets on board.

The so-called government shut down is just another liberal media bogeyman created to bully any congressman who dares to oppose the occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Essential services will still be provided. The nation won't go undefended. Schools won't close. People won't go hungry. The sky won't fall. The sun will continue to rise in the east. We've gone through so-called shut downs before & we're still here (with a government of unprecedented size, by the way).

And lastly, my family's experience with the beginning of the occupant care nightmare. My wife's insurance premium will increase by almost $650 per month. The only way to keep that increase off of our backs is to increase the deductible from $2500 to $9000. Unfortunately, my wife is under court order to maintain health insurance for her oldest son. So simply dropping coverage isn't an option, even though paying the new premium or increasing the deductible basically amount to the same end result.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

Teamless wrote:More proof that Cruz is doing something RIGHT!

Although I like Cruz on (the lack of ) gun control, his moves here have been epically stupid, and seemingly almost designed to lose the Republican's chance to regain the Senate and keep the house.

If you think Obamacare is bad, let it be implemented and put it around the neck of the Democrats. Take the Senate and pass legislation to end it or improve. But remember if you end it, there was a reason people initially supported it, and you'd better have a good plan to replace it with something better. Leaving alone isn't working.

If you crater the government over this the Republicans can and should lose both houses for a decade.

Once something like this gets fully in place it takes a monumental effort to remove it, if it can be removed at all. Better to fight it tooth & nail then to even tacitly sign on to it. The bigger problem for us is that if Cornyn does go Robert the Bruce on Cruz, it puts us in an awful bind. If we take out Cornyn in a republican primary, it would leave Texas without a senior senator. Without Cornyn's seniority as cover, Cruz would have to dial it down quite a bit.