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rickg wrote:

crice8 wrote:I dont like how hard it would be to draw from. In an intense moment if you needed to draw I can see fumbling, or even worse pulling the trigger in attempt to get it out. No thanks. Carry IWB with a minituck and never worry about it. I carry my shield in a crossbreed minituck at 3-4 o clock on my waist with fitted shirts and it fully conceals.. I'm 5' 10'' 170 with an athletic build.

We're about the same size and I wear slacks and dress shirts. When carrying IWB doesn't the grip stick outside the waistband a little and wouldn't that violate the code for being fully concealed? I'm asking cause I'm having a lot of difficulty finding IWB that works (fully concealed). Thanks

The SP allows quicker access to your CC than a tucked shirt over an IWB and is less trouble when getting dressed. While I returned both of my SP's (see earlier post in this thread) the short period of time I had them, they were easy to draw from vs. from a tucked shirt IWB. Thankfully, I no longer have to dress up to work and don't do tucked shirts, no ties, no suits - I do love retirement.

Received my return mailing label/envelope yesterday and full credit including shipping was issued to my credit card. Frankly, I would rather have had the holsters had there not been problems as mentioned in earlier above post. Disappointed, but satisfied with Sneaky Pete refunding my money.

End result as expected.

Just received an email response that in essence said this is "the way" these holsters are made and that they would reluctantly send me a "prepaid" mailer to return both for credit. Thanked me for giving SP a try and sayonara. Hopefully, I'll get the mailer and put this incident behind me, poorer but wiser. LOL

Unlike, say Remora or Kholster, where problems can be corrected or resolved as they control the manufacturing of the item. I suspect the SP's are mass produced in China and sold thru the residential home office rep who has absolutely no control over manufacturing or QC or the ability to correct a mis-manufactured item. It's a shame as I really do like the concept - just not the quality. Doesn't mean it may not work for others, but for this kind of money, I do expect near perfection of the product - and SP failed in that regard IMO.

I recently bought two belt clip SP's for different carry pistols (small frame; medium frame) as I liked the concept and ease of use vs. a tuckable IWB. Currently in process to either get them replaced or returned for credit (I will have to pay for return postage) as there is a problem with both units. SP's customer service is slow, slow, slow and may only be accessed thru email.

The small frame unit isn't deep enough for the pistol, so that the fold over closure hits the slide and grip - seems about a 1/4" too shallow. These two contact points keep tension on the flap and the slightest bump of the unit and the magnets release and you can see contents. And yes, I ordered the correct holster for the pistol.

The medium frame unit is just flat out made incorrectly. When the flap is closed it leaves a 1/2"+ gap (think half moon) front and back - you can actually see the pistol slide. If you pull the flap down to actually close the gap, the magnets pull it back to the gapped position when released. Otherwise the fit is good. I could resolve this by installing Velcro strips for closure, but not interested in fixing their problem. Like the holster, but not that much.

From the back and forth emails and pictures, I'm expecting that returning for credit will be the final solution. It does not appear the seller has much control over manufacturing or QC and appears to be nothing more than a residential home storefront rep in Brookhaven, NY. for a product I suspect from China - there are no indications on unit or packaging as to where manufactured.

I am disappointed as I truly like the concept, and if not for the problems mentioned, would be completely satisfied with purchase. I will advise the end results once known.