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jmra wrote:

Purplehood wrote:And our conversation was going along so cordially thus far...

You are correct. I will edit my last post.

Why? I, for one, agree.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/nyreg ... d=all&_r=0

I just want to mention that I was in public safety for over 10 years in one capacity or another and the line of thinking that only LEOs are competent or have the training to handle certain situations is appalling and one I challenged every time an officer stated "I am the only one professional enough to handle this glock" type attitude. I do not intend to change the anyone's mind, but officers make poor choices too and it is an important fact.

Songbird wrote:

sfemti33 wrote:
Unfortunately, you used my screenname and the words quoted from the OP. I in no way said any of those things above and my post was below his. Kindly edit your post to reflect that seeing as it is a misrepresentation of facts.

My sincerest apology for the mistake. The post has been corrected.

Thanks

Unfortunately, you used my screenname and the words quoted from the OP. I in no way said any of those things above and my post was below his. Kindly edit your post to reflect that seeing as it is a misrepresentation of facts.

dac1842 wrote:I just saw an article about free classes being formed for permitting Utah teachers to carry concealed. The law in Utah already permits concealed carry on school campus. What I am going to say next will certainly ruffle a few feathers on this forum, but that is ok.
I am all for concealed carry. I carry daily. I am NOT for teachers carrying in the classroom. Here is why.
1- Teachers are trained to teach. They are not trained to make a tactical engagement of an armed person on the campus. There is more to engaging a threat in a crowded school than just announcing you have a gun, or pointing and shooting.

2- Student on Teacher assaults are at an all time high. While many will argue this is a justification, I fear students overpowering a teacher and now they are armed. Not a good thing.

3- I see a teacher over reacting to a fight or other disturbance and discharging a firearm. I know these instances might be rare, but one is one too many.

I realize many on this board will disagree with me on this, but that is your right.

I will disagree. I just moved from Utah and have carried there for 8 years. While you are correct that "teachers are trained to teach" they are like any other class of individual in that they have hobbies and may be enthusiasts such as you or I. It's a pretty broad stroke to say that those who will take the class can't/won't get the proper training in their environment. That is like saying night cashiers should not have guns because "cashiers are there to cashier" or cabbies shouldn't have them because "cabbie are trained to drive around". I don't see how a profession would have the need to be intimately entangled with a firearm for a person to be effective. I know, personally, many k-6 teachers as well as college teachers that are more than capable of making an appropriate decision if the need arises. Some of them have CHL's, some of them don't, but all of them have had a discussion with me about their thoughts on armed teachers. Just something to think of. I think with the right training this is not such a terrible idea, especially in a state where many teachers already carry (prior to this "free" offering) and none of the events that you have stated have yet to happen (that I am aware of, at least not above any other regular firearm related accident).