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jnichols2 wrote:

steveincowtown wrote:#1> Private property rights are not absolute. In both our home and our business we must maintain certain standards that we as the public have decided are needed.

#2> I think a private property owner should be able to ASK anyone, at anytime, to leave their property for any reason.


#3> I don't think that it should be an offense to just enter any ones business, doing anything, without first being asked to leave. In other words, why do we have a sign that criminalizes trespass by a CHL with no other notice than just that sign? Think about how ridiculous it would seem if we attached the same standards to any other activity?

"Is this 911"

"Yes, it is."

" I need to report a gentleman who walked right passed by no shirt, no shoes sign."

"We are on our way."

I'm a "property rights" kind of guy.

If I start a business, on the property I own, I HAVE NOT given up the right to TELL anyone to leave my property.

Certainly, the state may have the right to pull my business license. And the public has the right to boycott my business. But they DO NOT have the right to force themselves onto my property against my will -- that's called trespassing.

Starting a business DOES NOT automatically convert private property to public property. It may in the Soviet Union or North Korea.

A public business has, by it's nature, extended an open invitation to the public. However; they can quickly revoke that information for a customer that misbehaves. An invited guest that mistreats my home or family will quickly find himself out on the sidewalk. That is the property owner's right.

City parks, schools, libraries, etc are all considered public property, paid for by public funds. Microsoft and General Motors are still PRIVATE property, and both have armed security guards to forcibly evict unwanted clients. Walmart is also private property, they are just to cheap to hire security. But many other stores do have security staff.

Bars and nightclubs are "open to the public", but just make a nuisance of yourself in one that has a mean bouncer. You may be trying to explain your "public" right to his bar to Mr. T. They don't have to call a LEO to tell the customer to leave, Mr. T will take care of that task.