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Beiruty wrote:

Topbuilder wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Somehow, in all this anti-Muslim fervor, you've got to find room for the 1st Amendment protection of freedom of religion. I am an evangelical Christian who finds great fault in Islamic theology, but will lay down my life for the right of a Muslim to peacefully practice his religion here.....as do more than one Muslim members of THIS forum....who are also pledged to protect my 1st Amendment right to freedom of religion.

There's a very good reason why the 2nd Amendment comes right after the 1st; but don't lose sight of the fact that the 1st IS first.....also for very good reasons....

I just got Sebastian Gupta's book Sunday and have read ~60% or so. He points out that

Islam is not a “religion” in the sense this term is commonly understood. It is a system encompassing all fields of living. Islam means politics, economics, legislation, science, humanism, health, psychology and sociology.

It is a mistake to view Islam as merely a religion.

Judaism and Christianity have similar code of conduct, like killing one's son if he disobey his father, etc... Killing the homosexuals too.

And is that still happening today...

I am not say it is still happening or it should happen. Homosexuals are not be killed, anyways.

Beiruty wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Somehow, in all this anti-Muslim fervor, you've got to find room for the 1st Amendment protection of freedom of religion. I am an evangelical Christian who finds great fault in Islamic theology, but will lay down my life for the right of a Muslim to peacefully practice his religion here.....as do more than one Muslim members of THIS forum....who are also pledged to protect my 1st Amendment right to freedom of religion.

There's a very good reason why the 2nd Amendment comes right after the 1st; but don't lose sight of the fact that the 1st IS first.....also for very good reasons....

I just got Sebastian Gupta's book Sunday and have read ~60% or so. He points out that

Islam is not a “religion” in the sense this term is commonly understood. It is a system encompassing all fields of living. Islam means politics, economics, legislation, science, humanism, health, psychology and sociology.

It is a mistake to view Islam as merely a religion.

Judaism and Christianity have similar code of conduct, like killing one's son if he disobey his father, etc... Killing the homosexuals too.

Beiruty wrote:

Topbuilder wrote:"Religion or theology may only be discussed in the context of threats or criminal acts committed in the name of a religion, and in thoughtful responses to those threats and acts."

That's our guidelines here.

The reason we can't seem to adhere is because of our current place in in history. "The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast." Rev 13:3. The whole world is non stop Islam.... all the time.

This is why it should not be a topic here:
The majority of commenters don't know enough about their own Book much less their adversaries.
The Koran promises the death or submission of all Christians and Jews.
The Bible is pretty detailed about how all the peoples surrounding Israel (called heathens) will be punished (killed) or worship Jehovah. Just so happens every country/people mentioned for destruction is moslem.
Allah of the Koran is not Jehovah, God, of the Bible.
The mahdi of Islam is the antichrist of the Bible. Jesus Christ of Revelation is the dajjal of the Koran.

We will never get along or agree on this subject. Let's just walk away...

Wait a sec, Muslims believe in the return of Issa' ibn Mariam, that is Jesus the son of Marry. Why you did not mention that too? You did not mention, that Dajjal would be killed at the hands of Jesus peace be upon him. Thus, Dajjal is the Anti-Christ.

Liberty wrote:His being a gay and a homophobe might have more to do with his motive than his Islamic roots.

Personally I am more concerned about the political and racial divisions in this country.. Their is an element of violence in the Trump and anti Trump sides. The LaRaza folks threaten violence against supporters . Black lives matter people talk about burning down our cities. And there are the "Bernie or Riot" folks who are talking about violent revolution if their candidate loses. ( Yeah he lost BTW ;)

Its got so bad that the Democrats are building a wall in Philadelphia to keep out the rioting mobs. This stuff spreads , and these people hate middle class working type people the most.

I am a child of the 60s ... I remember burning of our cities and bloody conflicts in our streets and blowing up of churches. I remember the massacres at our colleges. Today there is even more hatred between classes and distrust and hate of our government than ever before. . Political discussions no longer consider violence off the table. Yeah Islamic violence is only the tip of the iceburg.

Redneck_Buddha wrote:Wasn't San Bernardino the beginning?