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by Right2Carry
Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 9097

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

Stripes Dude wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
What facts have you provided? You have spoken a few words about what you think a few franchises might be doing, but you offered no tangible evidence to support your position. When you can provide something in writing from one of more of those franchises stating that is why they put up those signs, then you will have something factual to substantiate your claim.
Think about what you are suggesting. Why would I "out" trusted colleagues who are bound by business obligations and are not comfortable saying "no" due to the fact that they may lose their livelihood, but also have a strong feeling about our rights?

Clearly you're a "prove it with indisputable evidence or it isn't true" forum member....so this one may be a bit disappointing for you.
That's why they call them FACTS.
by Right2Carry
Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 9097

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

Stripes Dude wrote:
Abraham wrote:Stripes Dude,

Thanks for the info - I thought such might be the case. It's a compromise I can live with.

Some of us though seem too rigid to process this information with a "you must do what I demand attitude or I'll hold my breath until I turn blue"...
Exactly. Some may not have the business background to understand the franchisee/franchiser relationship, but often, the franchisee has to follow suit with corporate mandates. In these cases where there are philosophical or political differences, some will try to find ways around it. Not saying its wrong or right, but it is the case....whether or not an Internet forum member says there are no facts to back it up.
What facts have you provided? You have spoken a few words about what you think a few franchises might be doing, but you offered no tangible evidence to support your position. When you can provide something in writing from one of more of those franchises stating that is why they put up those signs, then you will have something factual to substantiate your claim.
by Right2Carry
Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:56 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 9097

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

Stripes Dude wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
Stripes Dude wrote:These signs are also used by businesses who don't want to put up the 30.06 sign because they don't want to alienate us (the CHL community), but they want the anti crowd who doesn't know the statutes to feel like they are on their side. I've seen this happen when headquarters issues a mandate to put up "no gun" signs, but the local management doesn't want to, so they "tongue in cheek" put up a worthless sign to look like they comply.

If this is the case, I give them credit.
There are no facts to back up this statement. This is just more justification to spend money in an establishment that really doesn't want your gun or your business.
Really? You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm in the restaurant/retail business and I know of three different restaurant franchises who do exactly this. Corporate says put up a sign, but doesn't specify which one.
So once again you make my point, they put up the wrong sign in ignorance. The intent of the corporation is to deny firearms. I will not give my money to a corporation that wants to limit my constitutional rights.
by Right2Carry
Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:10 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 9097

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

Stripes Dude wrote:These signs are also used by businesses who don't want to put up the 30.06 sign because they don't want to alienate us (the CHL community), but they want the anti crowd who doesn't know the statutes to feel like they are on their side. I've seen this happen when headquarters issues a mandate to put up "no gun" signs, but the local management doesn't want to, so they "tongue in cheek" put up a worthless sign to look like they comply.

If this is the case, I give them credit.
There are no facts to back up this statement. This is just more justification to spend money in an establishment that really doesn't want your gun or your business.
by Right2Carry
Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:57 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 9097

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

mlawler wrote:Sign posted to pacify the sheeple! Of course means absolutely nothing to a CHL holder.
I don't believe it and think the owners are just ignorant of the correct signage. There is not one shred of proof that they are trying to pacify the sheeple, but if it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling then by all means keep giving them money.

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