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mamabearCali wrote:On the gay issue, if they want govt out of the love defining business then the govt has to get all the way out.

That sounds great to me. Same income taxes for straight or gay. Same income taxes for married, single, or polygamous. Same income taxes for parents of 5 years olds, parents of 45 year olds, and non parents. That would be a great step forward for equality and fairness!

Oldgringo wrote:

C-dub wrote:

pcgizzmo wrote: The problem is that you can't count on abstinence ...

Why not? It is 100% effective when used.

Except for one reputed instance, C-dub's statement is correct...I think.

I remember reading about that. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2525921/.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mamabearCali wrote: Like my in-laws and others. They let themselves be deceived refused to Search out for the truth and now we will all suffer. Small consolation to me and mine when I have to cut the grocery budget to pay for Obama care taxes and tax increases.

Consider it a small price to pay to be able to stand on your principles and ensure a small government conservative didn't get the GOP nomination.