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by Jaguar
Fri May 31, 2013 10:28 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Just a dumb question . Hospitals ??
Replies: 27
Views: 5172

Re: Just a dumb question . Hospitals ??

chasfm11 wrote:Be very careful. The Harris Methodist hospital, a small one, in Southlake has the "white on glass" 30.06. It is really hard to see unless you know that it is there. I'm not willing to risk pressing the fact that it is not really contrasting. A number of the other hospitals have the same difficult to read sign setup. The Irving Baylor facitily only has the 30.06 sign on ambulance entrance. The LEO on a desk inside is a pretty good indicator, however. The South entrance, through the large office building, is unposted. I'm betting that the sign is applied to any connected part of the facility by LE and the Iriving DA, if it ever comes to that.

My approach is to assume that any larger medical facility associated with Harris or Baylor is posted unless I physically prove to myself that it isn't. I understand that is not the way that the TPC reads but I don't have the deep pockets to hire lawyers to take more of a purist approach.
Absolutely - my mother was in Baylor's All-Saints in Fort Worth for a couple weeks and they do the same white on glass letters. At the time I didn't have my license but I knew the laws and wondered about the "contrasting colors" part of their sign. I wouldn't carry past it now.

I have been to the local boondocks hospital here on many occasions (they have a branch of the cancer clinic I go to) and I always carry, they have the old signs up for me to disregard. Of course I subtract 2lbs off my weight for my all steel Kahr K9 - but don't tell anyone. :nono:
by Jaguar
Fri May 31, 2013 9:48 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Just a dumb question . Hospitals ??
Replies: 27
Views: 5172

Re: Just a dumb question . Hospitals ??

CHL-16 is your friend.
PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;

(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
So section (i) negates (b)(4), unless the 30.06 is present.

I have noticed most large hospitals in large cities post 30.06 signs (Harris, Baylor, and Medical Plaza, all in Fort Worth) but small town hospitals typically don't. Check the doors for the sign, and if none there you should be good to carry. Of course some folks still run into problems (http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=58991" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) so be careful.

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