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anygunanywhere wrote:Should we tolerate ALL rude behavior because we are armed?
Thoughts?
Anygunanywhere

I know what you mean and ALL rude behavior is a broad brush. But I agree with your intent. When I carry (that's almost everywhere everyday) it makes me watch speed limits more, my suroundings more, and I am definately (or would be) more careful about just what I got myself involved in. (haven't gotten involved in anything in years)

I read a story (maybe on this forum) about a guy being messed with on the road. The other driver in road rage WANTED the CHL carrier to pull over. His friend driving with him said "pull over, we'll take care of that $#%$#%" The CHL holder said "you don't understand, I'm carrying a firearm, I cannot lose! He could take my gun and shoot US"

I think about this from time to time. In my younger years I was unafraid and uncaring about what I said to who. But as an older, wiser man, with a CHL, I want to avoid and retreat if I need to. Because I CANNOT LOSE! I will not get shot with my own firearm. So that gives me two choices. avoid SITUATION THUS AVOID shooting, or shoot center mass. In the interest of my family's safety and my own...I'd rather avoid trouble.
It's easy to be macho...I have many times....it's a lot harder being macho from prison.

mecoseko wrote:I guess I failed to mention this altercation happened just inside the entrance doors and were all in line for TV's- unless you were behind them in line you werent able to exit because the guy with the gun was standing there holding his gun up trying to make sure that he wasnt attacked from behind. We all went behind a register and the guy just kept looking at everyone with a blank stare

SLIGHTLY INCORRECT FACTS!!!! according to news reports.
I cannot find an on line news article addressing the possible muzzle sweep but I remember the TV new piece
specifically stating police asking about the CHL holder pointing the firearm at poeple and aggravated assault.

I watched it twice (DVR) because I'm a relatively new CHL holder (under one year) and wondered about an attack with fists against me and my legal right to draw my firearm. The CHL holder complained to a guy who cut in front of others in line. This was durring "Black Friday" before Christmas.
(I believe this was a mistake. I would not have liked someone cutting in line, but carry a firearm wuld have kept quite)

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The "line cutter" hit the CHL holder in mouth, and the CHL drew his firearm.
Witnesses (according to the new report) said the CHL holder pointed his firearm at the ground and NOT
at people. Police investigated possible aggravated assault charges against the CHL holder.
SEVERAL witnesses said the CHL holder DID NOT muzzle sweep the crowd. ( I believe this is a key point)
Police let the CHL holder walk away.

My question is for Chas or other lawyers on the forums.

I of course never want to have to draw my sidearm.
I hope I go my whole life carrying it on my hip as a useless paper weight only used at the range.

But if I am ever physically attacked by someone without a weapon, can a CHL holder draw? Or expose a firearm without drawing?

My concern is I have a prosthetic hip and dupuytren’s disease in my hands.
Physically fighting back is limited being semi disabled.

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Under the above scenario, if I was hit kicked or otherwise attacked by someone without a weapon,
can I draw to stop the attack without pointing my firearm at the perpatrator.

I see the Zimmerman / Martin case and seeing the long drawn out case there
am thinking the judge knows Zimmerman will walk and is allowing time to pass
to avoid rioting. He certainly is not getting a speedy trial. He was attacked by a man without
a weapon but clearly was a life threatening situation. Does one have to wait until their head is bashed into the cement?