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by Moby
Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:57 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: To laser or not?
Replies: 35
Views: 4636

Re: To laser or not?

Alright, this has gone far enough.

STOP, all parties just STOP NOW!
by Moby
Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:59 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: To laser or not?
Replies: 35
Views: 4636

Re: To laser or not?

Whoa fella's hold on just a moment.
I appreciate all the input. Surely did not mean to fire up a heated discussion.

I got some great persepective from everyone.
for me, I think irons sights and lots of range time is the way to go.

I think IDPA is something I want to investigate.
On the surface it looks like real world type CCW training.

:fire
by Moby
Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:58 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: To laser or not?
Replies: 35
Views: 4636

Re: To laser or not?

cbunt1 wrote:
74novaman wrote:They're distracting and I hated how I had a tendency to chase the laser around the target when I tried to use it.

I sold the only pair of laser grips I had. I can see how they might be useful with plenty of training, but I prefer not to use them.

Edit: One more thought.....take any advice your SEAL friend gives you about civilian carry issues with a slight grain of salt.

No doubt those guys have tons of excellent training and have nothing but my respect. But, the problems and scenarios they trained for and faced are for the most part vastly different than what most of us average guys in Texas are ever going to face. Doing something one way or another just because the SEALs or the Army or the police do it is the first step on the road to failure for most CHL carriers, IMO. Different set of problems, different skillsets/tools needed for success.

My .02
I agree with all of your points sir. The topic was a laser of course (meant politely).
He just had an opinion and I see many here agree. I have no delusions of "Seal Like" behavior. :fire

I am a monthly shooter (maybe bi monthly) and am 99% "on target" out to 30 yards.
Well beyond most CHL encounters.
I'm a former LEO but it was USCG which is a bit different than an on the street cop.
We were trained "front" site and lasers didn't exsist.

I didn't know one could use laser in IDPA. A sport I want to try out.
Appreciate your posts fella's

Good points, 74novaman. Self defense shooting and training has about as much to do with military/police training as hot-rodding has to do with top-fuel drag racing...

Capture/Arrest/Apprehension of a SUSPECT or PERP is a different animal entirely than stopping a THREAT by an armed citizen. We get to disengage and "get out of dodge," as a first option, or at any point in the encounter...they don't have that luxury. If the threat turns and runs when I pull a gun, I get to put the gun away, make a police repot, and move on with my life...
by Moby
Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:39 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: To laser or not?
Replies: 35
Views: 4636

To laser or not?

A friend of mine is an ex-seal. He said he didn't like lasers as they cuased him to look at the dot rather than the perps hands. I'm undecided about the addition of a laser to my daily carry.

Any thoughts?

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