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by harrycallahan
Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bad Experience
Replies: 121
Views: 19715

Re: Bad Experience

I understand what you're saying and I know what 30.05 and 30.06 say. I also know that NO ONE, police that is, will arrest on either pc 30.05 or 30.06 in this situation unless effect notice and thereby refusal to leave was/is giving in the presence of the police officer. If what you're saying would actually be true, he, the manager, could conceivably call the police and have any CCW patron arrested by simply lying to the officer. Not gonna happen my friend. And, if you'll re-read my post, I wasn't critical of 30.06. I was critical of his sloppy concealment and his admissive statements to an otherwise ignorant manager.
by harrycallahan
Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:43 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bad Experience
Replies: 121
Views: 19715

Re: Bad Experience

gringo pistolero wrote:
harrycallahan wrote:First, concealed should be concealed. Something went wrong there. I'm sorry, but that is a fact. Unless he has X-ray eyes. Second, upon being taken aside by the manager, you never disclose that you're carrying. Till him anything but. He's not a police officer or a friend, therefore he has zero right to intrude upon you.
If you're a guest in his place of business, he has every right to ask the question, and also to refuse service to anyone.
The point I am trying to get across is this and that is he has NO authority to compel any one to answer any question regarding what he thinks might be a firearm. None. If he does, find the Texas statute that says I do and I'll read. Here is what I think went down and that plus .02 won't get you anything.

1. I think this guys concealment failed completely. If not, it was so bad and/or obvious that it may as well been uncovered.
2. I wouldn't have allowed myself to be interrupted/pulled aside for this.
3. I wouldn't have answered any question put forth by this manager.
4. I think he made an error by his admission.
5. I certainly wouldn't have disarmed and then returned. No way, no how.

He would have had to have called the police and brought them to my table and only then would I have disclosed my CHL status.
by harrycallahan
Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bad Experience
Replies: 121
Views: 19715

Re: Bad Experience

First, concealed should be concealed. Something went wrong there. I'm sorry, but that is a fact. Unless he has X-ray eyes. Second, upon being taken aside by the manager, you never disclose that you're carrying. Till him anything but. He's not a police officer or a friend, therefore he has zero right to intrude upon you.

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