That is good news.G26ster wrote:UPDATE today from the TSRA via email: (For those concerned about the affect on the CMP)
Information provided this morning by a CMP spokes-person:
"The latest Exec order, action, policy, or whatever it turns out to be has no impact on the CMP. From what we have read, the action applies to private importers. CMP has never imported a firearm and will never import a firearm. Any rifle we receive is transferred to us by the U.S. Army, who is not affected by the latest news. All of the rumors and reports were unfounded and were made without anyone verifying the accuracy of the reports with CMP. We will be sending a short and simple statement to all our constituents this week.
Thank you checking with us instead of just continuing to report our demise."
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- Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:53 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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- Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:11 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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Good point, and I was wondering the same thing. But I find it disconcerting that it says, "...with only a few exceptions such as for museums," and no mention whatsoever of CMP. It may be that they intend to continue to allow the CMP as part of the "few exceptions," but didn't want to mention the CMP for political reasons. But the fact it was left out and the words "with few exceptions" leads me to believe otherwise. Hopefully that's not the case. Nonetheless, I still urge those who disagree with the EO to write the White House and Congress seeking its repeal. The more communications they get voicing its unpopularity, the more likely it is to get repealed, retracted or at least amended and clarified.G26ster wrote:One thing to note here re: the CMP. The OP story said, " Today, the Administration is announcing a new policy of denying requests to bring military-grade firearms back into the United States to private entities, with only a few exceptions such as for museums. This new policy will help keep military-grade firearms off our streets."Skiprr wrote:Mike Piccione, in an article for the Daily Caller, says that today's executive order would effectively shut down the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program.equin wrote:So will this affect the re-importation of WWII era M1 Garands?
The CMP is a U.S. gov't chartered organization, but is it a "private entity?" Perhaps a grey area.
"The CPRPFS is a tax-exempt non-profit 501(c)(3) corporation chartered by the U.S. Congress, but is not an agency of the U.S. government (Title 36, United States Code, Section 40701 et seq.). Apart from a donation of surplus .22 and .30 caliber rifles in the Army's inventory to the CMP, the CMP receives no federal funding."
- Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:56 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Executive order adds two new gun measures
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Here's the White House Petition seeking to retract the Executive Order:
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- Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:28 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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I've already written the White House to reconsider its decision although I doubt it'll have any effect. More importantly, though, I've written my Senators and Congressional Rep to introduce legislation overriding, repealing or at least amending the Executive Order to allow for the re-importation of these old, collector-value WWII-era rifles.
What is most perplexing about this EO is what appears to be ignorance and a lack of knowledge of the M1 Garand. It only has an 8-round capacity. It is recommended that only old, military surplus ammo be used - not modern, more readily available commercial ammo. Due to its age, it requires added care, upkeep and maintenance. And it is more difficult to load for a beginner without practice. It's also long and heavy. None of these factors make it suitable or desirable for criminals to use in the performance of a gun-related crime.
Now the M1 Carbine, being lighter, shorter and having a greater ammo capacity than the M1 Garand, may be more suitable. But someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ammo for it was a bit harder to find and more expensive.
Anyway, I urge others to write Congress and the White House expressing their concern with this EO.
What is most perplexing about this EO is what appears to be ignorance and a lack of knowledge of the M1 Garand. It only has an 8-round capacity. It is recommended that only old, military surplus ammo be used - not modern, more readily available commercial ammo. Due to its age, it requires added care, upkeep and maintenance. And it is more difficult to load for a beginner without practice. It's also long and heavy. None of these factors make it suitable or desirable for criminals to use in the performance of a gun-related crime.
Now the M1 Carbine, being lighter, shorter and having a greater ammo capacity than the M1 Garand, may be more suitable. But someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ammo for it was a bit harder to find and more expensive.
Anyway, I urge others to write Congress and the White House expressing their concern with this EO.
- Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:32 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Executive order adds two new gun measures
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Interestingly enough, it seems like the old Russian WWII Mosin Nagant imports would not be affected since they're not "re-imports"?equin wrote:This is exactly what I was afraid of. This is terrible news for collectors and for those of us who dreamed of once owning a piece of American history.Skiprr wrote:Mike Piccione, in an article for the Daily Caller, says that today's executive order would effectively shut down the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program.equin wrote:So will this affect the re-importation of WWII era M1 Garands?
- Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:22 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Executive order adds two new gun measures
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This is exactly what I was afraid of. This is terrible news for collectors and for those of us who dreamed of once owning a piece of American history.Skiprr wrote:Mike Piccione, in an article for the Daily Caller, says that today's executive order would effectively shut down the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program.equin wrote:So will this affect the re-importation of WWII era M1 Garands?
- Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:18 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Executive order adds two new gun measures
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So will this affect the re-importation of WWII era M1 Garands?