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jmra wrote:

Liberty wrote:Once the officer claims he thinks he smells pot, he has gained the right to search the car and temporally seize the weapon so that he can run the numbers. .

So you are suggesting that an officer would lie to gain access to a car? Because I don't remember anyone mentioning pot in this conversation. If any LEO says he smells pot in my car he is a liar and I would pursue every legal avenue to ensure that he was never given the opportunity to commit the same crime against another.
This is a fraud a cop does not want to pull on me.
I would demand that before he touched my car his supervisor be dispatched to our location. I would then get the officer on record as saying he smelled pot. I doubt very seriously that he would do so. But if he did, I would then have the supervisor (recorded on dash cam) state wether or not he smelled pot. If he agreed, the only way they are finding anything is if they plant it.
If they did that, well...vengeance is mine says The Lord.

Even the two DPS officers who violated the women on the side of the road didn't plant drugs.

First let me answer the original question does a LEO have the right to disarm you (yes) for the safety of all involved in the stop. Many things are going through the LEO mind do you make a furtive move are you nervous some is understandable some is not. A few on this forum believe that during a traffic stop or any other face to face contact with police you're in charge believe me when I say that's wrong the officer is in charge at that point so telling him what & how it's going to be conducted will not work very well for you. Keep this in mind you know who the officer is they wear uniforms badges (etc) he or she doesn't know who or what you are what you may have just done they will proceed slowly until they know. May I also say that after hundreds & hundreds of traffic contacts I made 99% went very well but the 1% that went bad went bad in a hurry & some went very bad don't be so hard on LEOs for trying to be safe. Do we have bad police sure just like you have bad chl instructors. Do police abuse their authority a very small % just like some chl instructors abuse the authority they have folks it happens in all walks of life. i will put LEOs up to any group in our society I bet they stand up % wise to anyone or any group & better than most for having the good ones out weigh the bad ones. I was a little surprized at some of the comments that have been made here concerning police lying taking bribes just being law breakers in general. For the few that make these comments let me assure you again the ones who do this are a very very small % of officers. Most officers I served with & those that still serve we did not get up in the morning or leave our family in the middle of the night ready for our shift thinking boy I sure hope I find a chl holder to mess with today we were just hoping for a quite night so we could come back to our loved ones. Sorry if i've rambled but chl holders are some of the best citizens in our society so just wanted y'all to understand LEOs. Last word for me if the police stop you do what they tell you keep a good attitude be surprized how well & quick it goes.