Wild Bill and Rex B
I confess!!! Your way of saying "I do not consent" is far better than what I suggested.
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- Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Stopped By Police in Greenville Texas
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- Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:30 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Stopped By Police in Greenville Texas
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Re: Stopped By Police in Greenville Texas
Quote by SpeedSix:
"...sadly enough, the LEO planting evidence is historical fact...and history does repeat itself from time to time... "Just Say No" works for me..."
Speedy,
Excellent points.
The only thing I would add is that sometimes "NO!" has to be phrased as "YES!".
Often, the request to search is phrased as "You don't mind if I search your trunk, do you?"
In such case the proper answer is "Respectfully sir, I most definitely DO mind. I certainly will not try to stop you, but I do NOT consent to a search."
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"...sadly enough, the LEO planting evidence is historical fact...and history does repeat itself from time to time... "Just Say No" works for me..."
Speedy,
Excellent points.
The only thing I would add is that sometimes "NO!" has to be phrased as "YES!".
Often, the request to search is phrased as "You don't mind if I search your trunk, do you?"
In such case the proper answer is "Respectfully sir, I most definitely DO mind. I certainly will not try to stop you, but I do NOT consent to a search."
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- Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:17 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Stopped By Police in Greenville Texas
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Re: Stopped By Police in Greenville Texas
Quote:
"A society gives up it's rights one by one. What could it hurt, I've nothing to hide?
Worked real well in Germany ca. 1930. Other examples abound.
I don't have anything to hide either, but I'll take the ticket rather than surrender a right."
Here's my free opinion on why nobody should ever voluntarily consent to a search:
A dirty cop. And to the LEOs in here I apologize for the turn of phrase. But surely you will acknowledge, if only to yourselves, that such people are among you, however small their numbers may be.
Let's say you give consent to a search, knowing you have nothing to hide. You pop the trunk. While he rummages around he palms a bag of marijuana or other street drug, and says "Well, what do we have here?" And proceeds to arrest you.
Is such a scenario likely to happen? No. Has it happened? Yes. Why might it happen? He doesn't like your dark hair (or your blond hair). Or your attitude. Or whatever.
But once you consent to a search you have forfeited your right to object to an illegal search and to object to any illegal substance "found" there. Under such a scenario you WILL be convicted unless you have a video or a witness to his illegal act.
Just a thought.
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"A society gives up it's rights one by one. What could it hurt, I've nothing to hide?
Worked real well in Germany ca. 1930. Other examples abound.
I don't have anything to hide either, but I'll take the ticket rather than surrender a right."
Here's my free opinion on why nobody should ever voluntarily consent to a search:
A dirty cop. And to the LEOs in here I apologize for the turn of phrase. But surely you will acknowledge, if only to yourselves, that such people are among you, however small their numbers may be.
Let's say you give consent to a search, knowing you have nothing to hide. You pop the trunk. While he rummages around he palms a bag of marijuana or other street drug, and says "Well, what do we have here?" And proceeds to arrest you.
Is such a scenario likely to happen? No. Has it happened? Yes. Why might it happen? He doesn't like your dark hair (or your blond hair). Or your attitude. Or whatever.
But once you consent to a search you have forfeited your right to object to an illegal search and to object to any illegal substance "found" there. Under such a scenario you WILL be convicted unless you have a video or a witness to his illegal act.
Just a thought.
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