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mojo84 wrote: Reduced what it takes to get a bill to a floor vote, made his chair appointments, indicated his support for open carry and reduced the number of democratic committee chairs. What more can he as Lt. Gov. do at this point.

He can't draft legislation and put it to a floor vote by himself. There is a process that has to be followed. Seems like some believe he has some authority to issue executive actions or such that will make OC a law. Do you guys expect him to pull an Obama?

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Though I suspect my previous statement that we're going to have to agree to disagree still stands, I'm going to add this.

After the statement that caused all the ruckus, Patrick made this statement:

Now that (Senate Bill) 11 has support and is moving towards passage we can focus on other Second Amendment issues, including open carry, which I have consistently supported.”

So, apparently HE believes there is more he can do. I hope this is more than political double-speak to kick the can down the road. We shall see.

I stand by my statement that his comments the previous day disappointed me, and made me feel as if my support of him was misplaced. I'm slightly less disappointed right now, but we shall see...

mojo84 wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:... How is Patrick supposed to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate if it does not clear a committee? Hint: He cannot!
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Maybe the mistake of many of us was not questioning him further when he ran. Instead of accepting that he would fight for OC as Lt Gov, maybe we should have been asking him exactly how he was going to do that.

It's the representatives job to write, sponsor, promote and get bills passed. What do you want Patrick to do specifically?

That's why I said that maybe "we" (figuratively speaking) should have asked what specifically he planned on doing when he made OC part of his campaign. Apparently, he's now saying he can't do much, which is disappointing whether it's true or not, since he did make it part of his campaign.

Up to this point, I think he's done what he can and fulfilled his campaign promise. What more do you expect, specifically?

I guess I'm missing what he did to support it. Can you elaborate?

Reduced what it takes to get a bill to a floor vote, made his chair appointments, indicated his support for open carry and reduced the number of democratic committee chairs. What more can he as Lt. Gov. do at this point.

He can't draft legislation and put it to a floor vote by himself. There is a process that has to be followed. Seems like some believe he has some authority to issue executive actions or such that will make OC a law. Do you guys expect him to pull an Obama?

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I suspect we're going to have to disagree, but here are my counters:

If "the votes aren't there", then reducing the number of of votes needed to bring it to a floor vote (with that number "apparently" still being too high) did nothing to advocate.
If the chair appointments he made aren't doing it, then did he make the right chair appointments?
Indicating "support" for a position that a politician believes won't be voted on is an old trick. It's been done for years now.

I suspect that there is plenty of "back room pressure" that can be applied by the most powerful position in Texas politics. Maybe he's doing that, and it ain't working. I don't know.

But, I don't buy the argument that "there's nothing he can do" when it's placed alongside of "he promised to do something". If the former is true, then he should have never done the latter.

mojo84 wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:... How is Patrick supposed to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate if it does not clear a committee? Hint: He cannot!
...

Maybe the mistake of many of us was not questioning him further when he ran. Instead of accepting that he would fight for OC as Lt Gov, maybe we should have been asking him exactly how he was going to do that.

It's the representatives job to write, sponsor, promote and get bills passed. What do you want Patrick to do specifically?

That's why I said that maybe "we" (figuratively speaking) should have asked what specifically he planned on doing when he made OC part of his campaign. Apparently, he's now saying he can't do much, which is disappointing whether it's true or not, since he did make it part of his campaign.

Up to this point, I think he's done what he can and fulfilled his campaign promise. What more do you expect, specifically?

I guess I'm missing what he did to support it. Can you elaborate?

mojo84 wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:... How is Patrick supposed to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate if it does not clear a committee? Hint: He cannot!
...

Maybe the mistake of many of us was not questioning him further when he ran. Instead of accepting that he would fight for OC as Lt Gov, maybe we should have been asking him exactly how he was going to do that.

It's the representatives job to write, sponsor, promote and get bills passed. What do you want Patrick to do specifically?

That's why I said that maybe "we" (figuratively speaking) should have asked what specifically he planned on doing when he made OC part of his campaign. Apparently, he's now saying he can't do much, which is disappointing whether it's true or not, since he did make it part of his campaign.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:... How is Patrick supposed to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate if it does not clear a committee? Hint: He cannot!
...

Maybe the mistake of many of us was not questioning him further when he ran. Instead of accepting that he would fight for OC as Lt Gov, maybe we should have been asking him exactly how he was going to do that.