If you'll re-read my post, Harry, you'll note that I did not discuss whether one would get arrested. You've used the words "if what you're saying would actually be true." Sorry, but what I said is quite objectively true and really isn't debatable. If the manager tells you guns aren't allowed and you stay, then you ARE committing a crime. Whether you'll be arrested or convicted is a separate issue that I haven't yet brought up.smoothoperator wrote:What if he tells the truth? The manager calls 911 and says there's a guy with a gun who refuses to leave.harrycallahan wrote:I understand what you're saying and I know what 30.05 and 30.06 say. I also know that NO ONE, police that is, will arrest on either pc 30.05 or 30.06 in this situation unless effect notice and thereby refusal to leave was/is giving in the presence of the police officer. If what you're saying would actually be true, he, the manager, could conceivably call the police and have any CCW patron arrested by simply lying to the officer.
Having said that, I think SmoothOperator has it right. When the manager tells you you're not allowed to carry and you tell him its none of his business or that you're not carrying (or whatever you plan to say), he will likely then call the police. When they show up, he'll tell them that he told you to leave and that you wouldn't. What's your plan at this point? You've already committed one crime. Do you plan on lying to the police as well? I don't think that one is going to go as smooth as you think it will. Plus, even if you aren't caught or arrested, you've still trespassed. Personally, I try not to commit crimes, whether I'm going to get caught or not.