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by Skiprr
Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Harris County Precint 5 Park - Bear Creek
Replies: 16
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Re: Harris County Precint 5 Park - Bear Creek

locke_n_load wrote:Is there an easy way to tell if park land is owned by COE without using google?
I'm not aware of a truly easy way to confirm to confirm land/lake ownership, associated easements, and permitted recreational use without looking up a particular location. Here's a link to the ACOE locations launch page: http://www.usace.army.mil/Locations.aspx.

As you can see from the map, Texas is divvied up among the South Pacific Division and the Southwestern Division, covered by management offices in Albuquerque, Tulsa, DFW, and Galveston. Here's a link to information about the 24 ACOE-owned lakes managed out of the Ft. Worth District, but that doesn't show the district's Real Estate Division, Reservoir Operations, or Coasts and Ports.

The Bear Creek area discussed here (actually referred to as the Addicks and Barker Reservoirs) is managed out of the Galveston District Office, and here is a PDF file of the area's master plan as published in 2009. A summary of ACOE permitted recreational uses of Addicks/Barker is available at this link, but to get a detailed brochure you have to pick it up at the Addicks Project Office, or telephone and ask them to send it to you.

But Addicks/Barker is a good example that you have drill down into all the available info for a particular location. The Addicks and Barker Reservoir areas are governed by federal law (Title 36, Chapter III, Part 327), which includes: "327.13 Possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, and explosives of any kind is prohibited." However, we all know that ACOE agrees to lease land in George Bush Park to American Shooting Centers...located on Shooting Center Drive, no less. Clear evidence that the ACOE makes case-by-case decisions about permitted use on their lands, lakes, or waterways.
by Skiprr
Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Harris County Precint 5 Park - Bear Creek
Replies: 16
Views: 5041

Re: Harris County Precint 5 Park - Bear Creek

TEX wrote:Use to run quite a bit a Bear Creek Park, but had not been there in several years. Went there the other day but could not stay because they had brand new shiny "Federal Property - No Firearms Allowed" signs up. Maybe they have always been there and I never noticed, but these looked very new. I guess it is Corps of Engineer property where my tax dollars are being spent to maintain the place that I am no longer welcome. Any one have any information on this.
You betcha. I've lived near Bear Creek Park for over 15 years. It is very much Army Corps of Engineer property. I really wish I could run there armed.

A huge swath of West Houston is ACOE property. Check Google Maps to be astounded.

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