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by Skiprr
Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:29 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: What are your movie pet peeves re: guns?
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Re: What are your movie pet peeves re: guns?

Here’s one I forgot about: “cowboying,” as in flinging a handgun forward as you shoot to, I suppose, help the bullet along by throwing it out of the barrel. :???: It’s most commonly seen when the actor is using two handguns and firing them in an alternating, reciprocating action, a la Antonio Banderas in the big shoot-’em-up bar scene in Desperado. Not to be confused with the idiotic plot-point of Wanted where Angelina Jolie teaches the new recruit to “spin” the bullet as it comes out of the barrel to make it curve around an object in front of the intended target. :banghead:

I think “cowboying” has some basis in fact, though. Shooting an SAO revolver necessitates the cocking of the hammer between shots, and if you have a gun in each hand you have no choice but to do that with the thumb. So a natural motion develops that loosens the wrist a bit and rocks the barrel upward as the hammer is cocked between rounds.

The early movie moguls looked only at trick-shooting in Wild West shows and evidently decided that the small wrist movement should be exaggerated, should include some full-on elbow action so as to be clearly visible to the audience. The result is that we have icons like Randolph Scott, Jimmy Stewart, and even John Wayne immortalized on celluloid trying to throw the bullets out the barrels of their guns. Since we know about the single-action thing, though, that still doesn’t grate as much as seeing contemporary actors do it with a pair of Glocks...
by Skiprr
Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:44 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: What are your movie pet peeves re: guns?
Replies: 116
Views: 15267

Re: What are your movie pet peeves re: guns?

rdcrags wrote:It took 7 pages for someone to mention "no recoil". Clint Eastwood movies show it; most others do not. Makes me smile when the gun fires and doesn't move a bit.
Yet still most flinch and blink. Sigh.
by Skiprr
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:21 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: What are your movie pet peeves re: guns?
Replies: 116
Views: 15267

Re: What are your movie pet peeves re: guns?

After rounds have already been fired, actor with a pump shotgun racks it to show he really means business now. Akin to all the other redundant slide-racking and hammer-cocking (even phantom hammer-cocking), but it particularly annoys me in a max-eight-round pump when it also means a humongous 2.5” x .75” shell comes flying out.

Oh. Wait. That’s right: they never show the shell come flying out.

Firing continues after the slide has locked back on an autoloader. Saw that one in just the past week or two on some B movie; so memorable, I have no idea which one.

I’m with Steve on marksmanship. Last weekend I watched the first 30 minutes or so of The Devil’s Own with Harrison Ford and Brad Pitt (1997); got bored after that. Some of that might have been caused by the shootout in Northern Ireland. Thousands of rounds out of AKs and Uzis and you name it, but no one running across flat terrain or up staircases in a tight urban environment could ever be hit by full-auto fire that sprayed shots everywhere except within three feet of the runner.

Come to think of it, in one of those scenes they got the squib timing (not a dud round: the little charges the SF guys place that pop-off to simulate bullet impacts) and the foley (the sound effects of the automatic gunfire) messed up. A string of six or eight full-auto rounds took about a half-second to impact a brick wall across the street. Talk about subsonic rounds.

Plain poor gun handling is another peeve. How many movies/shows do you see where team tactics are involved, and the operators have no issues whatsoever with continuously sweeping their teammates? Fingers on triggers (naturally) they crisscross back and forth in front of each other with gun muzzles pointing right at each other’s backs?

I wish I could suspend disbelief, but really wonky gun-stuff pulls me right out of a movie unless it’s obviously meant to be campy and over-the-top.

It can’t be very difficult to find firearms/tactical consultants for movies. It’s gotta be that directors simply don’t care about authenticity...

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