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by bbhack
Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:54 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?
Replies: 115
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Re: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?

Pawpaw wrote:I firmly believe the President is, once again, leading the Dumbocrats around by the nose. Remember DACA? He lead them around until they painted themselves into a corner by voting down a plan that would provide a path to citizenship. They're still wearing that black eye.
Good catch.

Trump offered way more than they were demanding, with those opponents strutting around like peacocks saying, "No wall, never". DACA legislation is dead for now. Their hand is weaker if they ever get back around to it. Government shutdown? They look like the empty suits they are. Trump knows what he is doing, although a lot of people don't think so.

The number Trump put out was bigger than the original DACA numbers, but his period of naturalization was WAY longer than any dem ever imagined. And everyone knows that the wall funding is not negotiable. In the future DACA will not be tied to the budget, because they already did the faceplant on that one. And they have to figure out how to tell their constituents that the wall funding is a necessary part of the deal. But tying the wall funding to DACA was just insurance that they would not continue in good faith. DACA and wall funding are not really tied together at all.

So, given his demonstrated skill with this issue, why would another issue be so much different?

It can be fun to game this out. 1) Offer more than is expected up front. 2) Tie something to the offer that is not acceptable to the opposition. 3) Taunt them with artificial deadlines. 4) When the deadline passes, taunt them with their inaction.

Or some such.

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