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by Superman
Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:25 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Syria - hype or war?
Replies: 128
Views: 19617

Re: Syria - hype or war?

tbrown wrote:
Superman wrote:I noticed that CNN just released partial videos of what is being shown to our Congressmen. They are very graphic so I won't provide a link per the forum rules, but it is the top main link on their homepage right now. I definitely think whoever did this has to pay a very high price...whether it is the Assad regime or the terrorists (rebels).
If you believe in God, they will, without Obama's help.
If we were to use your logic, then why do we have so many prisons full of prisoners...or even a justice system at all, if God will eventually take care of them? Your suggestion doesn't make sense.

And I absolutely believe in God. It's because of my belief in Him that I feel the way I do. We are made in His image and he gave us our desire for justice. He also tells us in Romans 13 that we are all to "be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." He even establishes the evil governments. He also says governments "are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." Feel free to PM me if you really want to discuss the theology, so we don't break forum rules.

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by Superman
Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Syria - hype or war?
Replies: 128
Views: 19617

Re: Syria - hype or war?

Beiruty wrote:Rebels have no chemical warfare capability nor the means to deliver such wmd. From the videos you noted hundreds of able body fighters were shown dead by sairin gas. Who is to be blamed? You decide.
There are rumors that Saudi Arabia has provided it to them. The case makes sense that the rebels are the ones to use them. They were losing...Obama set the red line and they knew it...so why not frame Assad for crossing the red line in order to drag us into fighting their fight for them? I do not put it past them when I see the videos of the rebel fighters eating the heart and liver of a soldier they just killed.
by Superman
Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:43 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Syria - hype or war?
Replies: 128
Views: 19617

Re: Syria - hype or war?

I noticed that CNN just released partial videos of what is being shown to our Congressmen. They are very graphic so I won't provide a link per the forum rules, but it is the top main link on their homepage right now. I definitely think whoever did this has to pay a very high price...whether it is the Assad regime or the terrorists (rebels).
by Superman
Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Syria - hype or war?
Replies: 128
Views: 19617

Re: Syria - hype or war?

SlickTX wrote:Haven't you heard, it's not going to be a war . . . just a quick bombardment from the air and no boots on the ground. You know, like Pearl Harbor.
Yes, meme's are fun aren't they, I've seen that on facebook too. Too bad it's an inaccurate simile. Pearl Harbor was an unprovoked attack. It was done as a pre-emptive strike in order to pull us into the war. It was no doubt an act of war. The kind of strike that is being considered by us now is a punitive strike. It is in response to an internationally recognized illegal action. They are not the same.
by Superman
Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:16 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Syria - hype or war?
Replies: 128
Views: 19617

Re: Syria - hype or war?

Purplehood wrote:There is not a single objective that is listed above that can be quantifiably defined and given to our Armed Forces as Mission Objectives. ...
Obviously, everyone is not really reading what I wrote or the links I provided.

I said that I agree with the open letter I linked to that included the objective: "to deter or destroy the Assad regime’s airpower and other conventional military means of committing atrocities against civilian non-combatants."

I think former U.S. Gen. Jack Keane makes a compelling case for decisively taking out Syria's air force and air capabilities (reference video). He said:
U.S. Gen. Jack Keane wrote:The most vulnerable military capability he has, Bret, is his air power. There’s 20 air fields, only six of them are primary. He only has about 100 aircraft. We can take down those air fields, the aircraft on them. Also, the munitions, the fuel, the warehouses that the Iranians and Russians are using to resupply them, we can do all of that. That would be a significant degradation of his capability, and something he isn’t bargaining for. He is not expecting to lose his air power over the use of chemical weapons.
Granted, Russia has now said they will resupply then with whatever we destroy, but that's another issue.

As for those asking "who are we to punish?

First, I'll refer back to President Reagan's actions when Libya engaged in terrorism back in the mid-1980's. Wisely, he did not overreach by launching a policy of regime change (leave it to Obama to do that bonehead move), instead he launched a bombing campaign to severely punish Khaddafi. Plenty of historical info on that here. There is even a really good article on that subject as it relates to us now here: '86 Attack on Libya: A Template for U.S. Action Now.

And second, what ever happened to us being a "shining city on a hill"? When this evil and corrupt world will not stand up for what is right, who else will (or can) if we don't? We have lost our way as a nation. We have become complacent and "tolerant" of way too many evils. The President is right when he says that it is not just his red line, but it was the worlds red line. The problem is that the Islamists have successfully made the world fear them, so much so that the world would rather take the easy way out since it doesn't directly and immediately affect them. But just like a parent who has to discipline their child, if you do not follow through with your "red lines", then they will grow up to be uncontrollable teenagers that will only cause you more problems...and then on to lawless adults that still act like children.

Anyone who thinks the use of chemical weapons (again, by either the government or the "rebels") in some civil war in a far off country won't affect us is a fool. I'll say it again...if we do nothing, we should expect them to use WMD more often, against more targets and to kill more people.
by Superman
Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Syria - hype or war?
Replies: 128
Views: 19617

Re: Syria - hype or war?

I may be the lone dissenter here, but but I'm in the camp that we have to do something. I completely disagree with Obama on pretty much every single thing he has ever done, but I think he is heading in the right direction this time (although I think he will "limp wrist" it and not go far enough and probably make things worse).

I think we should use aggressive military action to severely punish the Assad regime for using chemical weapons, but I think we should not "put boots on the ground." We should also not have the intention of regime change as I think Al Qaeda and/or other Jihadists would seize power. I agree with this open letter's approach "to deter or destroy the Assad regime’s airpower and other conventional military means of committing atrocities against civilian non-combatants."

I think we should be very cautious about arming rebels. If we can find rebels who will fight Assad AND the Al Qaeda jihadists, then I'm for helping them...but I fear our arms falling into the hands of the radicals.

I absolutely think it is in the U.S. national interest to punish any group (government or not) that uses weapons of mass destruction to purposely kill innocent civilians...and to send a very strong warning to everyone considering using WMD in the future. If we do nothing, we are sending the message to everyone that it's open season and we should expect radicals to use WMD more often, against more targets and to kill more people.

There are also rumors that it was actually the rebels who used the chemical weapons to drag us into fighting their fight. I think we need to make absolutely sure that we are punishing the guilty party. Reference here.

This is one of those fights that we "have to fight." I'm not talking about the civil war, but the use of chemical weapons. With all that said, I am very concerned about this administration's ability to craft or execute such a policy.

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