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by Don2
Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:41 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

OnceFired wrote:The media separator will go underneath the cement mixer, but mounted on support arms off the ground. The idea is to put it in the sweet spot so it is above whatever tray I use to catch the water or walnut media, but under the mouth of the mixer when pointed fully downward.

Here's a photo. The temporary setup was just the dowel resting on the storage totes, which wasn't high enough to clear the tray as-is. That's about 1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket of 5.56mm brass in there. So, in terms of volume it would handle 10 gallons of brass at once, with room for it all to move around and allow the media to fall out.

[ Image ]2013-10-21 21.02.25 by OnceFiredLakeCityBrass, on Flickr
Looks good.
You are surely thinking BIG..!!

Don2
by Don2
Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:36 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
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Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation now w/ pho

OnceFired wrote:Okay, I finally have a good update here. I got into our rental house about 3 weeks ago, and the past two weekends after recovering from the act of MOVING, I got industrious again and got a few things done.

Got my first batch of citric acid in the mixer without other media - that worked nicely. About one 5 gallon bucket of brass, another 5 gallons of water, and not a lot of time elapsed. Maybe 30 minutes. I think I spent more time on rinsing than the initial acid bath & agitation, in fact.

I didn't have a great way of separating the brass from the water at this point. I originally did so by running them several more rounds in the mixer - each just for a handful of revolutions. But I don't like doing that - it makes me have to hand-cull more brass out due to dings from hitting steel.

So, in the spirit of having enough space now (just in my garage, not a separate shop yet!) I decided to have some fun and I am building my dedicated home made media separator.

I used 2x4's, 1/4" hardware cloth, 1-3/4" circular saw drill attachment, a 4 foot 1-1/2" wooden dowel, brass hinges and brass catches, a whole mess of 1" roof nails, and a handful of 3" deck screws. And a scrap piece of plywood because I ran out of hardware cloth. I of course already had the bottom portion of my tray built from previous efforts, so now I could focus on making the whole thing far more functional.


It opens up 180 degrees, allows me to easily replace the dowel, functions as a pass-through sieve if needed, etc.

All I have left to do now is build the support frame to hold the dowel. I hope to do this with 2x4's as well, and have a couple galvanized fence post type U-shaped braces to help it spin nicely. More to come.

Update: Fixed images from Flickr that weren't working.

Once Fired
Is this screen frame to be used on the mixer or by itself?
It looks good and should do the job well.

Don2
by Don2
Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:03 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

ZombieApoc , looks like you got it all figured out..!!
Hope it works for you.
When you get it setup and working, post some pics.
I'd like to see you cool invention.

I was reading your tag line and it make me chuckle.
When I get frustrated in my shop over something, forget the video games, I get the 357 revolver out and go outside my shop and shoot a few cylinders of 357....that get the blood flowing again and I feel better and ready to tackle my project again..!!!!
Strange how that really works. :thumbs2:

Don2
by Don2
Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:39 am
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

ZombieApoc wrote:Thanks for the ideas, gents. I do appreciate the help.

Yeah, the can't build much permanent problem is the big sticking point right now. I am currently using a sheet metal storage shed to do this in - can't attach anything structural anywhere. I have now moved to the Springfield area, and am trying to get situated here. Once I land permanently somewhere (instead of in the RV park) then I will work toward a more permanent solution.

The wheel barrow idea is interesting. I would need to devise a method to secure the shaker box on top of it. The problem I see is that it won't really agitate the brass enough - no tumbling per se, just jostling. An improvement to be sure, but I think it wouldn't work great overall.

I did find a 16"x16" plastic modular pegboard at the local Home Depot. With a little effort, I could bolt that onto my cement mixer, perhaps even with a hinge, and turn it into the mixer door idea. The opening is 15.5" across, so with a few bolts & brackets, this would work, and also be easily replaced as it wears out from the weight put against it.

ZA
Hope you come up with something that you can use and will work. ( Keep us in the loop, I'd like to see what you come up with, I'm kinda interested in the same idea. )

I like the pegboard as a pegboard to use over some of my benches. I have a sheet of the old paper board stuff, but think the plastic ones would work better for me. I just want a small one anyways.
Thanks for the heads up on that. I've had a box full of all sorts of board hooks, some came from an old grocery store that held many card mounted items. About 18" long and many other type.

Don2
by Don2
Wed May 29, 2013 9:56 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

I have another strange idea. :smash:

What about an old clothes dryer?
Maybe just the inside drum with the holes like a giant rotary media separator????
Motor and belt could be used so its motorized. maybe on a 2x4 frame??
Maybe hinged in some way to pour brass out?

Still thinking and trying to help.
Don2
by Don2
Tue May 28, 2013 11:30 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

And a tiny bit more thinking.....

I remember seeing a TV show I think was called Gold Fever. On one segment they had a "Shaker" they used to separate sand/soil/rocks etc. ( Hopefully GOLD )
It was a frame with hardware cloth on the bottom with a motor to shake it.
Depends on how mechanically inclined someone is, and what "stuff" you have laying around.

I have a small 1/5 hp motor I was tinkering with, installed a 3"x 1"x 1/4" cold roll steel bar on the shaft and it would shake like crazy. That should work pretty well.
I think this is the direction I'm going in for myself. Problem is I am so backlogged with other stuff, it may be a long time until I get around to it.

The 2 wheel, wheel barrow may be great to keep it mobile. I looked all over the Internet, even on youtube and found nothing large to separate media from brass. Looks like we/you are on your own on this one..... ;-)


Don2
by Don2
Tue May 28, 2013 9:23 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

I was just studying your original picture with the cement mixer and your wood frame screen.
I started to think about what I would do.

With what you have shown, I would attach a small electric motor to one corner with a one sided weight like the vibrating tumblers use. Then hang the framed screen with some cable overhead to where you can still dump from your mixer into the frame/screen.
Make a larger frame with no screen to catch the media when it drops from the top screen/frame.

If you had a large plastic barrel, you could make a GIANT turning media separator like the rcbs or others???

Maybe one of them would work.
I'd try the motor screen/frame first.

I have a large commercial vibrating tumbler and had thought about the idea of the motor screen/frame idea a while back for my setup.
Hope you come up with something. Let us know what you end up with. I may want to copy YOUR idea :biggrinjester:

Don2
by Don2
Mon May 27, 2013 9:13 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

ZombieApoc wrote:Learned something new again today. I had never considered washing either my corn cob or walnut media. Clearly washing corn cob works based on his statements in the video.

I'll have to try washing my walnut, too.

ZA
I have washed mine several times and put into sun to dry.
Remember: The same bad contaminants will be in the wash water as in the media dust.
Be careful,wear rubber gloves and dispose of it in a responsible way.
I know the media is not that expensive, but every dollar I save goes into more reloading components, And that makes me HAPPY... :thumbs2:

Oh yea, I use walnut media myself with Nu-finish. Just my preference.
I've used corn cob, and corn/walnut combo, but mainly use walnut media for everything these dayZ.

Don2
by Don2
Mon May 27, 2013 5:50 pm
Forum: Reloading Forum
Topic: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation
Replies: 28
Views: 8996

Re: Suggestions for cement mixer media separation

This is what Jerry Miculek does.
Pretty much same idea.

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