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varko wrote: Just throwing this out there…..(in regards to the accuracy of the uniforms).

I remember listening to the commentary on one of these types of movies (or it might have been ‘The Unit’ TV show which has commentary by Eric Haney) and they were saying that due to legal issues they purposely will not duplicate an exact current military uniform. They will always alter it slightly from the real thing.

That's an urban myth. They can wear the full uniform to full standards.

bronco78 wrote:

gregthehand wrote:Yes Sir, no argument or dispute.. My apologies if it came off that way.

I see posts and threads like these and have a long 24 year career, intuitionally trained urge to clarify errors, remarks, or just points of reference. I mean no disrespect to anyone here. Nor am I attempting to be antagonistic in my replies.
As this is strike two in this thread for me.. I’ll step away from it, and leave the discussion to others.

Ah man I for one sure do like your input. I've learned some things at this point. Please keep posting.

bronco78 wrote:Direct fire IED detonation was specifically forbidden almost 4 years ago. The JOINT IED DEFEAT center, and EOD center of excellence found that it created a more hazardous situation for EOD personal if the IED did not detonate, then if the team dealt with the IED in a more standard procedure. Additionally., IED's in use after about 2004 were / are much less susceptible to a direct fire engagement. Add in to it the need to reduce collateral damage.. and all good reason to not attempt to do direct fire IE D detonation. All that said,,, sure there are still wanabe heroes that do it anyway.. More often than not creating an unstable mess that an EOD tech has to then move to and emplace a charger for a controlled detonation.

Sure enough but the film was supposed to have taken place in 2004. So when they were still shooting stuff to blow it up.

I was just pointing out that it was conceivable that they would know how to operate the rifle and shoot it accurately.

bronco78 wrote: The U.S. Army's Ranger Course develops the combat arms related functional skills, of officer and enlisted volunteers who are eligible for assignment to units whose primary mission is to engage in the close-combat, and direct fire battle in order to return to the Army a mentally and physically tough leader capable of (planning, organizing, and executing) a small unit combat operation in any environment.
Prerequisites
Ranger Training is available on a voluntary basis only for enlisted soldiers who are in the following primary MOS, E-4 and above.
11- Infantry
*12B - Combat Engineer
*13F - Fire Support Sergeant
*14S - Avenger Crewman
18 - Special Forces Personnel
*19D - Calvary Scout
19K - Armor Crewman
OFFICER PERSONNEL: Ranger Training is available on a voluntary basis only for Officers in the following Career Management Fields.

11A - Infantry Officer
12A - Armor Officers allocated against authorized 12C positions.
12C - Calvary Officers
*13A - Fire Support Offices
*14B - Short Range Air Defense Officers
18A - Special Forces Officers
*21B - Combat Engineer Officers

Hmm I had a lot, and I mean a lot, of guys I knew in all kinds of MOSs getting offered Ranger School. Many went. Most of the ones I knew were 31C (Radio Operator Maintainer) which is what I was, although I knew a 71L (Clerk) who went and got his tab as well. Most of it was either they had served in units that had Ranger slots, or they had gotten it as part of a enlistment/reenlistment bonus.

I watched the movie on vacation in New Mexico with one of my Army buddies. He had gone to Iraq but I had not. I should mention though that my involvement with Iraq was pretty heavy. I worked in targeting acquisition for a Corps level artillery section. We used satellite, UAV, and target info from troops on the ground to take out high priority targets in Iraq using Army missile and rocket artillery, Navy fires, and Air Force bombs. We did it all remotely and started before 3/2003.

ANYway my buddy was in the section with me and later went to another unit and was sent to Iraq. We both thought the movie was total bull. Most of what I saw has been mentioned here but I did notice some other stuff.

One thing that really got me as well as others was the whole sniper standoff thing. I understand that the FPK/PSL has an effective range of 1000 m but I'd really be concerned if someone was out sniping me and I was behind a Barrett. By the way EOD uses the Barretts to detonate IEDs and other explosives so it's entirely conceivable that the EOD guys would know how to operate them.

Did anyone notice that the all the EOD guys wore Combat Infantrymen's Badges? Those aren't earned by EOD guys. It's conceivable that they might have been in an infantry MOS and then changed MOSs but I mean EVERYONE wore one. They wore the CIB below there EOD badge which is wrong wrong wrong. The EOD badge is a Group 3 badge, the CIB is a group 1.

The last thing that I thought was totally wrong was when the guy goes outside the wire on his little revenge mission. I can't think of anyone who has been able to slip out. Furthermore he would be in a world of poop after he re-entered as he did with a pistol in tow.

Anyhow my wife is in the Air Guard and got an offer recently to go into EOD (she is an engineering officer). She turned it down for now because the training would be a year long. Plus the deployment schedule would be killer. Maybe we'll change her mind but for now she's happy just being in civil engineering.