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by Will938
Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:06 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: LEO vs Storm Trooper
Replies: 14
Views: 2838

Re: People have a false fear of guns in many locales

Hoppes wrote:
flintknapper wrote:
Hoppes wrote:
Will938 wrote:
Hoppes wrote:
Will938 wrote:
I don't think the Aussies advanced out of that mindset.
I remember the best Christmas present I ever received - a Ted Williams Single Shot .410 Caliber Shotgun. I spent many weekends with my dad, brother, and friends hunting dove, quail and squirrel. A kid remembers fellowship for life. Much longer than giving someone a CD or DVD today. Will they remember a CD or DVD twenty years late? Probably not.

HOPPES
Not many folks know that the ".410" is actually designated "caliber" and not "gauge" as with other shotgun rounds. Apparently, you do!

Good on ya. :smile:
The .410 is the only shotgun in a caliber versus a gauge. Yes, many people don't know this. If you go to Bass Pro or Cabelas, etc. and look for .410 stuff, you will see it frequently labeled as .410 gauge and that is not correct. It is a caliber just like you mention.

This is the kind of information that gets changed in history without any challenge. I suppose most of us know that old saying, "A lie left unchallenged becomes the truth." Although not intended as a lie, in another 50 years, the .410 might be referred to exclusively as a gauge without prejudice.

Let me explain that to those that might have forgotten:

With a 12 gauge, you can make 12 equal diameter lead balls, to the gun barrel, out of 1 pound of lead.

With a 20 gauge, you could make 20 equal diameter lead balls to the gun barrel, out of one pound of lead.

This goes on for the other larger and smaller gauges of shotguns. I think the largest is a 4 gauge.

People used to buy lead by the pound and that was the unit of measure so you would know how many bullets or pellets you could cast. At several times, lead seemed to be more valuable than gold and other precious metals because the early settler's life depended on lead to stay alive.

The .410 Caliber Shotgun is measured by the barrel's bore, not the number of equal diameter lead balls to the gun barrel, out of one pound of lead. So technically, the .410 shotgun is a caliber and not a gauge.

Thanks for the nice comment Flint Napper. I know what a napper is too. My grandmother on my dad's side of the family was native American Indian.

We have a lot of Indian history found right on our property here in Texas and up in Arkansas. I've got boxes of original napped flints and chert I have found over the years.

Hoppes
When I was 12 I went through the Texas Hunter Safety Course. The guy teaching it said that a .410 shotgun = 67 gauge?
by Will938
Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:05 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: LEO vs Storm Trooper
Replies: 14
Views: 2838

Re: People have a false fear of guns in many locales

Hoppes wrote:
Will938 wrote:

One young fellow, about 12, saw me carrying around a book I was going to buy. It was a Gun Digest Book authored by Massad Ayoob, owner of Lethal Force Institute, entitled "Combat Handgunnery". there were ilustrations of handguns on the front and back cover of the paperback book. When the 12 year old saw the book with the handgun illustrations, he freaked out. I told him he should read about guns and learn about them because Harry Potter was not going to be able to protect him in real life.

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I remember when I was a kid a gun visible in public made me very nervous as well. Not on a book, but on a cop's side. Plain clothed was even worse. Now a days I look to see what they carry, doesn't bother me at all. I don't think the Aussies advanced out of that mindset.
by Will938
Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:22 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: LEO vs Storm Trooper
Replies: 14
Views: 2838

"Police will charge the man on summons for possessing an unregistered firearm, despite it being a replica."

Ridiculous, the majority of Australians are literally terrified by the sight of anything resembling a gun.

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