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JJVP wrote:

bayouhazard wrote:Good points. Where did the bullets hit? Shooting to stop is a lot like real estate. Location, location, location.

You are right, it location, location, location. Here is one story of a kid who shot a home invader with a .22 rifle. Two shots, dead on the scene. Read another recently about a home owner who shot a burglar one time 9mm, dead. Another a few months ago of a woman who shot through a door with a .32, same result, dead. All this talk about only .45 will do, is just that, talk.

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In the case of the 22, yes, he was found dead but he lasted long enough to inflict a lethal wound had he been armed and dedicated to the attack. The goal in a defensive shooting is not to kill the threat. It is to stop them. Some people give up easily, others do not. Killing and stopping are very different things.

OldCurlyWolf wrote:Learned something about hunting hogs, didn't you?

Always check before you come down from the tree.

I was looking around as I came down. I also had a .454 on my hip. A run in with a very large and very territorial boar years ago taught me not to take them lightly. Also, an old accuantance of mine has a video of him shooting a trapped hog with a 44 magnum. He let it out only to watch it run off and it was still making hay when it hit the treeline on the other side of the field.

Where this boar was at when he went down, he only had to crawl a few feet to be out of sight which is what I assumed happened. I assumed wrong. Anyways, as it relates to this thread, that boar was about the size of an average man. If he could continue on after suffering a devastating wound from a 45 caliber rifle, there is no way I would claim a handgun would quickly stop a determined attacker with shots to the chest.

74novaman wrote:4 minutes is more than enough time to try to kill who shot you.

Exactly. I have said it many times but handguns are a compromise and we use them only because they are convenient. The body can take a lot and continue to function for a short time and a lot can happen in a short time.

A few years ago, I had a group of hogs come by my treestand. The boar out front was probably about 200 pounds or so. I shot him first then proceeded to shoot 4 more smaller pigs. When I shot him, he fell down immediately. When I got down out of the tree and looked over there, he wasn't there. I tracked him down and he had crawled away through some heavy brush and I found him probably 30-35 yards away. He took a 405 grain 45-70 through the chest that destroyed his lungs, broke the far shoulder, and opened a huge exit hole. A full magazine of 40s or 45s wouldn't do that kind of damage, yet he was able to get back up and crawl away, broken shoulder and all.