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by Ruark
Fri May 22, 2015 10:37 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)
Replies: 43
Views: 6017

Re: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Your post implies that you have frequent contact with LEOs. Are you stopped by a LEO often? If so, why? I drive a Corvette and I haven't been stopped more than 3 or 4 times in the last 15 years. I've never been stopped on the street, not once in 65 years.
Chas.
Heh, no, not particularly often. Just pulled over for things like a tail light being out, license plate fell off, etc. Haven't had a traffic ticket in ages. In those cases, granted, they did have a reason to detain me, because I was in violation. But asking me all those questions when detaining me for a "CHL check" when I'm not violating any law is a different matter; that would be hard to tolerate. Summarily, I guess we'll just have to wait until January 1 and see what actually happens.
by Ruark
Thu May 21, 2015 8:32 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)
Replies: 43
Views: 6017

Re: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)

mojo84 wrote: I also believe cops typically respond to respect with respect. I've said elsewhere that I will go along with showing ID if I chose to open carry and get stopped till the newness wears off and people get more accustomed to open carry.
I disagree. The overwhelming majority of cops I've encountered have responded to my "yes sir, no sir" respect with a litany of personal questions. Where are you going today, sir? Shopping? Do you work in Austin? Oh, you're retired? Where did you retire from? When was that? What did you do there? etc. etc. etc.

Just for the record, I'm never, never belligerent or rude to LEOs. I might say, with excruciating politeness, "Uh, sir, we'd like to be moving along here, is there anything else I can help you with?" From there, depending on how it goes, I might proceed to the "am I being detained?" script. But again, always with extreme politeness. Regardless, I have a very clear limit on how far I will allow such a conversation to go.
by Ruark
Thu May 21, 2015 8:19 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)
Replies: 43
Views: 6017

Re: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)

mr1337 wrote:
Ruark wrote:Austin's PD has never been inattentive to spurious MWAG calls, so I'm not sure. Remember, they're the ones (under the notorious Acevedo) who put up that huge billboard, right by the freeway, saying "Tell us about your neighbor who has a gun."
Haven't seen that one yet. Where is it located?
It's probably gone now. That was 2 or 3 years ago, maybe more.
by Ruark
Wed May 20, 2015 3:31 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)
Replies: 43
Views: 6017

Re: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)

Austin's PD has never been inattentive to spurious MWAG calls, so I'm not sure. Remember, they're the ones (under the notorious Acevedo) who put up that huge billboard, right by the freeway, saying "Tell us about your neighbor who has a gun."
by Ruark
Tue May 19, 2015 5:34 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)
Replies: 43
Views: 6017

Re: An honest response from a local LEO (HB910)

I supposed I could tolerate a calm, polite request to quickly glance at my CHL and then let me go on my way, but I'm more concerned about those that are more on power trips - the ones that pull up with their cruisers with lights flashing, take your gun ("for your safety, sir"), go sit in their cars 10 minutes running your ID, ask you 25 questions about where you work, where you're going, etc. etc. etc. while a crowd gathers... while you're TRYING to just enjoy a nice Saturday afternoon stroll with your wife. Now that Dutton has been removed, this WILL happen.

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