The death of HB508 affects all of us a whole lot more than what the SCOTUS did today. Lets see what we can do regarding the "will of the people".
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- Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:29 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Today is a sad day in American history
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Re: Today is a sad day in American history
Hey folks, since this is a CHL Forum and this is a politcal thread, can we get back to CHL stuff? Our Governor has called another special session to start Monday and left all gun is issues off the call again.
The death of HB508 affects all of us a whole lot more than what the SCOTUS did today. Lets see what we can do regarding the "will of the people".
The death of HB508 affects all of us a whole lot more than what the SCOTUS did today. Lets see what we can do regarding the "will of the people".
- Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:04 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Today is a sad day in American history
- Replies: 133
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Re: Today is a sad day in American history
I'd go one step further and suggest we get rid of the over 1100 laws and government benefits that only apply to married people. Treat every individual equally under the law as the constitution requires. No special priveleges for a special class at all. This isn't about morality, its all about the money.cb1000rider wrote:Prior to 1965, there were many places in the USA where African Americans were not allowed to vote due to the will of the majority.baldeagle wrote:By refusing to rule on the California amendment banning gay marriage, the Supreme Court has effectively said that government officials, by fiat, can chose to ignore the will of the people and refuse to defend a Constitutional amendment passed by the people.
Prior to that, it was the will of the people that African Americans couldn't own property.
Prior to that, African Americans WERE property.
Women couldn't vote until 1920.
Clearly, we can't depend on the will of the people to make fair decisions. History teaches us over and over that an unprotected minority gets treated unfairly.
Want a marriage policy that we call can agree on?
Marriage is a religious institution. One of the basic founding principles of our country is separation of church and state.
The government should get out of the marriage business. If they want to regulate something, they can regulate civil unions.
Churches get to regulate marriage and via that means, they can include or exclude whomever they want per moral doctrine.
Rights granted to citizens should not be predicated on marriage. They should be predicated on civil union. To do anything else results in some form of inequality and discrimination.