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by 2firfun50
Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:40 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: UPDATE 2nd: 1-15-13
Replies: 40
Views: 7633

Re: UPDATE 2nd: 1-15-13

Reds45ACP wrote:
Rex B wrote:
JP171 wrote:I wonder about HB 508 section C, the language lends itself to a very broad interpretation.


(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, in the room or rooms
where a [at any] meeting of a governmental entity is held [/color]
and if the
meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551, Government Code,
and the entity provided notice as required by that chapter
The Bold is the new language the blue is the old. I think that provides a loophole for abuse as in the city council uses all the rooms at city hall as meeting rooms as Texas law defines a meeting as 2 or more, council members are always going into each others offices.
Change "held" to a "currently in progress" might make it work

1) Yaaayyyy for 508 :hurry:

2) :iagree: :txflag:

3) Let's get the dang 30.06 sign off of Austin City Hall!!! :banghead:
Would the red bolded lanuage in the bill take care of the private or impromptu meeting issue? Seems like they could only temp post for formal, open meetings.
by 2firfun50
Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:04 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: UPDATE 2nd: 1-15-13
Replies: 40
Views: 7633

Re: UPDATE 2nd: 1-15-13

Charles L. Cotton wrote:TPC §6.03(c): A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.

Chas.
RoyGBiv wrote:So y'all don't have to search for it..

http://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB507" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB508" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I agree that 507 is bad.

I'd like to know what the definition of "reckless" is in 508..??
Is that defined someplace else? If not, the bill appears moot.

I'd struggle to define "reckless" in the context of posting a wrong sign.
(2) the public employee is reckless as to whether a
license holder is prohibited from carrying a handgun on the
premises or other place.
I would rather see "negligent" instead of reckless.

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