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Scott in Houston wrote:Their guns are way overpriced. Did you get them to come down on your purchases? I've never considered buying there because of their prices, so I don't even know if they negotiate at all. Glock 19's for $600 for example...

Agreed - I've never gotten past just glancing at their prices because they are outrageous on weapons. Of course, they are approaching outrageous on range fees as well.

fulano wrote:So, about the squib round. What was the manufacturer?

Remington UMC - Remington has been great about it by the way. See this thread for more about the round:

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Jusster wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of going to Top Gun, but now I think I’ll just stick to Memorial Shooting Range. The half price range fee’s on Wednesday’s aren’t too bad either (when I can make it )

Jusster

That's where I was planning on trying next time I go. I wasn't aware of the half-priced Wednesday special so thanks for that info.

AndyC wrote:Totally agree. How on earth are they going to fit a (big) .45acp cartridge into a (little) .40S&W chamber - change the laws of physics?

I'd be terrified to shoot any .40 S&W that could chamber a .45 - there'd have to be a *slight* problem with the clearances...

I have been going to Top Gun for a while, and putting up with their ridiculous prices for range times because it is convenient for me and it has AC. However, I do not believe I will be going back after my last experience there.

I was shooting my .40 S&W PX4 and also a .45 1911 one day when my .40 had a "squib" round. It sort of popped (instead of a loud BANG) and it wouldn't chamber the next round all the way in. I field-stripped it and realized that the slug of the squib was lodged in the barrel about 3/4" from the chamber (which is why it wouldn't chamber the next all the way in). I had no prior experience with a squib so I was unsure of what had happened and why.

I took the barrel into the store and asked the guys working behind the counter if they had seen something like this before. They got a small punch and a hammer and tried to hit the slug out of the barrel (trying to hit it back out the way it came, which is the way to do it in case anybody ever runs into this problem). They couldn't get it but then proceeded to tell me I had shot a .45 bullet and that's why it was stuck. I told them that was feasible but highly unlikely due to the fact that I know what I'm doing and I'm pretty attentive. However, they were convinced and told me that's definitely what happened. We shined a flashlight down the barrel and I pointed out that the slug had a flat nose as opposed to a rounded nose like a .45 would have. They claimed that was from when they tried to hit the slug out with the punch. I then told them that my clip wouldn't load a .45 (which I checked even though I suspected it wouldn't) and even if it would, there is no way ANY .40 would chamber a .45. They didn't really have a good answer for that but were still convinced.

I walk away to go tell my friend I'm ready to go when he is and they think I have left. When I come back into the store, I hear them talking to their buddies about how some guy was shooting both .40's and .45's and he loaded a .45 in his gun and now it's stuck and he messed his gun up but he claims he didn't do it. They don't even see me standing right there so I again tell them that's not what happened and I leave shortly after.

Between the knowledge of the guys working that day, their conviction in their flawed theory, them talking about me after I "leave", and the pure arrogance that they had when trying to convince me that I had shot a .45 out of my gun, I was not happy. Unfortunately, that is the last straw for Top Gun for me and I will be taking my business elsewhere. That experience shows their ignorance and level of professionalism. It is still the most convenient range for me but I won't be putting up with that out of principal.

By the way, I got the round out at home using a punch and hammer. Sure enough it was a .40 S&W. After internet research, I decided it was a "squib". I sent in the remainder of the ammo and Remington is replacing the entire box. I have shot my gun since then and it is A-OK.