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74novaman wrote:Fishfree, I understand what you're saying.

But understanding its a right that is being denied.....how do you propose we fix it? ....

I'll argue that history tells us that appeasement and half-measures will never win the day. That is the strategy used to limit and control.

I am ignorant of the minutia of political processes at the local and state level and that is why I posted. I wanted to hear of existing organized efforts putting pressure on the political machinery.

In broadest of terms I know this little bit:

1) stop fighting among ourselves
2) withhold our money and our votes from politicians from village to state level who will not pledge support for our 2A rights in full (remove regulation of wearing)
3) make it known we will give our money and our votes to the opponent of sitting politicians who do not support our 2A rights (no excuses accepted!)- even if we have to hold our collective noses to do so
4) organize into a large and worrisome voting constituency with one troublesome voice

This last one is key. And here I am lacking in the knowledge to get this done effectively. But I do not think we can hope for #4 without first accomplishing #1.

thank you for the time and effort to read and post; if a moderator sees this I'll suggest it is time to lock it in hopes that instead of more internal conflict a new thread will start limited to how one gets a political lobbying organization up and running or in finding an existing organization we can work with.

Again, thanks

fishfree wrote:Is there any organized effort/organization active to get a vote & passage in the next legislative session ?

... and 5 pages later if there was an answer there it got buried in the static. I presume the answer is that there is not an organized effort (at least not well known as such) for OC.

My parting comment, for your consideration, is this:

In my college days I took a history course. It was supposedly about Western Civilization but the professor had a bent about institutions (like governments) and how they perpetuated themselves against popular will. One singular aspect that has stayed with me all these decades is this. To control the unwashed masses, divide them. That simple. Grant special privileges to some and tell them they are special, deserving and above the rest. That they must protect their special status. And that is all it takes.

We all want our rights, including gun rights. But look back at these past 4 pages of posts. How much heat? How much light in these arguments among citizens with a common interest? Now ask yourself this- How hard was the CHL test? How difficult was the shooting practical? Do those 2 tests plus not being a felon make you an extraordinary rare and special citizen deserving of a very special privilege? A privilege as opposed to a right?



thanks

Is there any organized effort/organization active to get a vote & passage in the next legislative session ?

thanks